Religion - Which are you?

[Unlimited]

This thread ideally is to create a poll of how many people are religious, and what religions you believe in. But I would like you to further discuss the matters of religion and why some may be more seemingly 'justified' than others.

I am Athiest myself, and do not believe in the Big Bang (for it is a theory), but only believe in pure science and logic. And I do not even give a fuck about the creation of matter. Your turn.

Here is an additional pie chart for how the World views it:
http://www.adherents.com/images/rel_pie.gif
But I am sure results will greatly differ considering we are all English speakers, probably from developed countries.

[Rep Me Please]

Christian. kthx

[Faded]

Your name fails

[Saizeci]

Christian -> Orthodox

Unlimited, "according to the Big Bang model, the universe, originally in an extremely hot and dense state that expanded rapidly, has since cooled by expanding to the present diluted state, and continues to expand today. The theory of Big Bang is the most comprehensive and accurate explanation supported by scientific evidence and observations"

Inform yourself before posting

[Unlimited]

And the non-religious people have taken the lead by 2 kill! A breathtaking experience, truly, here live at the Religion Colusseum. But Christianity has taken a HEAD-SHOT!! Because it has a few people commenting on it as posts but not actually bothering to consider using the poll. Please use the poll also folks.

[Rep Me Please]

Your name fails

So does your choad.

[adithya]

Islam :3

[Unlimited]

So does your choad.

Ladies, ladies,
if you want to flame: Go to http://ac-web.org/forums/group.php?do=discuss&gmid=1186#gmessage1186

[Saizeci]

You guys are facking insane!

[Unlimited]

Christian -> Orthodox

Unlimited, "according to the Big Bang model, the universe, originally in an extremely hot and dense state that expanded rapidly, has since cooled by expanding to the present diluted state, and continues to expand today. The theory of Big Bang is the most comprehensive and accurate explanation supported by scientific evidence and observations"

Inform yourself before posting

Yeh, I know. Once again: I don't believe it until scientific law says it's true. I don't have a reason to believe it, nor do I even care. That is my rationale.

[BringIt07]

Latter Day Saints (;

[DeniDov]

-Athiest

[LS12]

God is a bluff

[Draknyte1]

Athiest, God is more of a lie than Cake is, and we all know.
Cake is a Lie!

[Artilles]

God is a bluff

Apologize to god, or i wont forgive you.

[Krew]

I was raised Christian. But I really don't know what I want to believe, so I'll go with Agnostic.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/cik55/geebusymca.png

[Kung Fu Panda]

Officially I'd call myself agnostic, but I think I'm gonna end up an Anglican Christian sometime or another.... So Christian :)

[LS12]

Apologize to god, or i wont forgive you.

God is fake so I have nothing to apologize to.

[splicho]

Zeugen Jehovas, Amen.

[alessandrowow]

lol im a primal-indeginous uga uga buga buga

[Artilles]

God is fake so I have nothing to apologize to.

Now you owe me an apology, you bigoted idiot.

[batzz]

Atheist

[vvv]

Yeh, I know. Once again: I don't believe it until scientific law says it's true. I don't have a reason to believe it, nor do I even care. That is my rationale.



#"¤#"¤!##¤" and you call you self a russian, nasha vera ona PRAVASLAVNAJA a ty nahreno govorish takuju hren.


And Orthodox

[Tulip]

Atheist aswell.

[vvv]

Atheist aswell.


Atheism does destroy cultrues and Nationalities so Atheists is enemies of a country.

They Dont belive in a relegion wich is almost always the reason too a country have risen,and haves to do very much things with the countrys culture.

So Nationalism is the only True Ideology.

[Krew]

is anarchy a religion? :3
troll?

[Draknyte1]

Id say its more of a Cult

[nexusoblivion]

other - Pagan..... not so neo nor traditional... don't really know what that primal crap is all about.... if your talking native American that'd also be pagan or polytheistic or even what would be considered heathenistic...

[NaekaOo]

I AM OTHER: VOODOOIST (I'm not kidding :/) Don't mock me :(

[Krew]

I AM OTHER: VOODOOIST (I'm not kidding :/) Don't mock me :(

'Kay......................................

[Unlimited]

Let's get all of your answers.
And I am sure every person who clicked on Other should have actually clicked on something else, for their religion falls in another category. Almost nobody in the world falls into Other.

[Furiox2]

iM 100% NAZI

[NaekaOo]

VoodooIst Is the way to go :D

[Unlimited]

iM 100% NAZI

Nazism is not a religion.
Please think, folks, before you use the 'Other' option. It'd be nice to get accurate results.

[Pedobear]

I am of the Church of the Jedi. Proof: http://www.jedichurch.org/

Hahaha I win

[Cuddles]

I am of the Church of the Jedi. Proof: http://www.jedichurch.org/

Hahaha I win

BBC. I win.

[Pedobear]

But but.... it still says you're attempting to give a damn! >: (

[Syke]

Orthodox

I should have known...

Atheism does destroy cultrues and Nationalities so Atheists is enemies of a country.

They Dont belive in a relegion wich is almost always the reason too a country have risen,and haves to do very much things with the countrys culture.

So Nationalism is the only True Ideology.

Shut the fuck up you worthless shitstain. Your country sucks, you suck and your family sucks. Especially your father, he's a dick sucking faggot that like to get his asshole pounded my black dudes.


Atheist here.

[pointblank65]

Atheism does destroy cultrues and Nationalities so Atheists is enemies of a country.

They Dont belive in a relegion wich is almost always the reason too a country have risen,and haves to do very much things with the countrys culture.

So Nationalism is the only True Ideology.

Countries have been conquered in the name of religions. Entire races have nearly been wiped off the face of the earth to defend their god's ego. Religious differences are also the main cause of war.

Countries have risen because similar beliefs, not necessarily religion.

is anarchy a religion? :3
troll?

As much as Democracy or Communism are religions.



I am Agnostic. There are just some things that we will not know, at least in my lifetime. The only way to explain that is that there is a god. I just find it hard to believe someone who played a part in all the makings of the universe would favor one group of people over another, especially considering the atrocities that have been done by multiple parties in his name and thus denounce the credibility of modern religions.

[Unlimited]

And Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist is taking the lead by 1 point front of Christianity! For behind that we have 6 lies in Other which should be in different sections. And far behind again 1 for Islam. Come on people. This is a tight wrap. Who'll win the great race?

[-Cursed-]

Atheist.

[AwkwardDev]

Totally, Atheist!

[HelpYouAsaP]

Religion causes more war than anything else, I keep away and will never believe in it.

[Unlimited]

Fucking keep your comments coming, bitches!

[KAKA2081]

Islam :3

Cool :3 same here ^_^

[Begeebuz]

Budist.

[Brownie]

Islam.

[SolomonGM]

Other - The Order of Wen the Eternally Surprised

[Unlimited]

Let's be serious please.

[mag1212]

Whoever wrote the bible is the biggest troll in history.

[Syke]

Whoever wrote the bible is the biggest troll in history.

I thought Hitler was the World Trolling Champion.

[Krew]

Whoever wrote the bible is the biggest troll in history.

Rephrase. Whoever wrote the bible is the biggest victim in history.

The bible is the most shoplifted book in the world and it doesn't have a copyright on it so it is stolen by other companies for profit. :(

[Ikizami]

Don't know where to place my religion, I suppose ''other''.
I'm all for the entire concept that our existence is just an incredibility complicated computer simulation.
That God is just a smart mathematician, and fluent in some computer coding language.
Too much evidence for this not to be real, so I believe in it.
+ Game programming offers you a keen outlook into the mind of God.

[jesper96]

Im raised christian aswell, and right now im going through this confirmation stuff, mostly because.. *cough* gifts *cough* , but im pretty much an atheist.

[Bolvarxx]

Satanist, haters gonna hate.

[pointblank65]

I thought Hitler was the World Trolling Champion.

He affected millions.

The bible affected billions.

[Syke]

He affected millions.

The bible affected billions.

Then the asshat who wrote the bible is clearly the world trolling champion.

[Nonsense567]

Then the asshat who wrote the bible is clearly the world trolling champion.

There was more then one person who wrote the bible.

[Syke]

There was more then one person who wrote the bible.

Maybe, maybe not. But he/she/they was/were tripping balls.

[Treison]

I believe in Allah, which makes me Muslim(islam) but i am a sunni muslim!!!

[Nonsense567]

Maybe, maybe not. But he/she/they was/were tripping balls.
Maybe So

[Syke]

I believe in Allah, which makes me Muslim(islam) but i am a sunni muslim!!!

GTFO, terrorist.

[Nonsense567]

lol Define Terrorist Syke

[Syke]

It was a joke.

[Nonsense567]

I know thats why i put lol in the front

[Pedobear]

I am a Jedi. I know the ways of the for.... wait is this a serious thread?

[Nonsense567]

I am part of the Perfect Race

[Syke]

I am a Jedi. I know the ways of the for.... wait is this a serious thread?


I think it used to be.

[Bolvarxx]

The Bible was assembled, not written.

Stories from people who wrote about other people were just put in a book then " Holy Bible " was stamped on the front.
It is somewhat like a Sci-Fi book.

[Syke]

Death to all jews.

[Draknyte1]

Death to all jews.

You cant just kill them all. Extermination is the key to success.

[Krew]

This thread should be deleted for not being intellectual. It's just a bunch of rubbish.

[expo]

This thread should be deleted for not being intellectual. It's just a bunch of rubbish.

Just like every other thread here.

[Krew]

Just like every other thread here.

Meh, you're right... :o

[Unlimited]

This thread should be deleted for not being intellectual. It's just a bunch of rubbish.

I don't think anyone agrees with you.
But please don't share your opinion on it, we'll need to keep on topic.

So debate and post about your religions as you will.
It is truly interesting to see what the majority in AC-Web believe, at the moment appearing to be... nothing.

[hiperhiv]

Other - Ezoterism :) .

[J0E]

Other - Noob the Pwns.

[Rabe]

Other- Pastifarian.
Yay, freedom of religion. ^_^

[Unlimited]

If you're not religious, you pick "Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist", NOT OTHER!

[talorin]

Christian - Catholic.

[X292]

Shinto

[SirEpicWin]

Islam.

[Unlimited]

Some of you are obviously not being very honest with yourselves. Almost all of you who clicked on the Other button didn't realise that your religion falls under another category, were being an idiot because what you stated wasn't a religion at all, or just mashed something on your keyboard. This gives inaccurate results. So if you clicked on Other, tell us what you intended to click on.

[KingEmme]

Christianity FTW! :D

[Czirz]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/14/129157336896430733.jpg

[Unlimited]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/14/129157336896430733.jpg

As fun of a religion that would be, it doesn't quite fit any poll category at all.

[Czirz]

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/small/1004/red-forman-red-forman-demotivational-poster-1271436732.jpg

Better?

[Unlimited]

Nope. Keep trying.

[Saint94]

Atheist.

[Navraj]

Sikhism FTW?

[AwkwardDev]

Good to see atheists leading :)

[expo]

lolwut?

[Unlimited]

I feel like multiple accounts clicked on the Christian button being the enormous rise in one fucking hour. It's funny how nobody in AC-Web is Jewish.

[expo]

Seems like the same thing happened to Atheists. Except they jumped early on.

[Ritmas]

I was born Christian.
Now I praise Jah. [Rastafari]

[Tephillis]

I was raised Christian, but as I grew older I realized I'm more of an Agnostic. I mean no offense to other religions, feel free to believe in whatever you want, but in my opinion, it's likewise if god exists or not. I believe that what humans do, that's what creates them. If you steal - you're a thief, if you are generous and helpful - you're a nice person.

That is why I voted myself as Agnostic.

[Syke]

I was raised Christian, but as I grew older I realized I'm more of an Agnostic. I mean no offense to other religions, feel free to believe in whatever you want, but in my opinion, it's likewise if god exists or not. I believe that what humans do, that's what creates them. If you steal - you're a thief, if you are generous and helpful - you're a nice person.

That is why I voted myself as Agnostic.

I'm going to have to agree with this guy.

[Blackveiled]

Existential Nihilism.

[Unlimited]

Be serious. Don't be ashamed of what you believe in.

[Mitch528]

Looks like I'm the only Jew on AC-Web...

[pakman123]

I was raised Christian, but as I grew older I realized I'm more of an Agnostic. I mean no offense to other religions, feel free to believe in whatever you want, but in my opinion, it's likewise if god exists or not. I believe that what humans do, that's what creates them. If you steal - you're a thief, if you are generous and helpful - you're a nice person.

That is why I voted myself as Agnostic.
I agree with this guy.

[Unlimited]

Needs more votes. Don't be ashamed of what you believe in.

[и.нawтz]

Roman Catholic.

[vvv]

Christians win.

[Unlimited]

The poll is always open. Nobody wins until Earth is no more.

...then everybody loses.

[Anthuun]

i -AM- actually a christian, but i dont believe in it anyway (i believe in nothing) so i picked non religious ;P

[Tyler2112]

Christianity

[Devo]

i -AM- actually a christian, but i dont believe in it anyway (i believe in nothing) so i picked non religious ;P

If you don't believe in it your not one..

I however am a Christian/Catholic I am not a bible lover I've never actually read much of it, personally I feel there is something else out there, I have no idea what it is or when it was created or how it was created, but that doesn't press the point that something made the world, people like to point to science as the key... well who made science?

At the same time I wonder, how would the celestial being have the powers to do such deeds, so I believe God exists through the people who believe in him hes a signal of hope to the weak and needy, a presence of the mind you can say hell who knows the full capacity of the human mind because we don't use it all.

Was just answering some of the arguments posted here, religion is and always will be one of the main sources of heated arguments and war as long as Earth is around, I believe that you should think what you want and people should not have the right to tell you otherwise.

[Slinky]

Spirits don't come from nowhere, spirits are real so something must exist. I saw my great grandma once shortly after she died. I believe this is truth. You can feel the presence sometimes...of people who are not there. Trust me, they exist, and not all of them are normal spirits..

I used to be atheist, but I know there's something that controls everything...and maybe Earth is just a testing ground for us...so live it to your best. I do however, still believe in reincarnation.

[expo]

i -AM- actually a christian, but i dont believe in it anyway (i believe in nothing) so i picked non religious ;P

You can't be a Christian if you don't believe in Christianity.

Spirits don't come from nowhere, spirits are real so something must exist. I saw my great grandma once shortly after she died. I believe this is truth. You can feel the presence sometimes...of people who are not there. Trust me, they exist, and not all of them are normal spirits..

I used to be atheist, but I know there's something that controls everything...and maybe Earth is just a testing ground for us...so live it to your best. I do however, still believe in reincarnation.

That is if they exist. The existence of it is belief since it can't be proven with human terms and perception.

[Versolian]

i -AM- actually a christian, but i dont believe in it anyway (i believe in nothing) so i picked non religious ;P

^ Dumbass.

[negrodamus]

I'm Catholic but getting better.

[Mehthiro]

your "Spirit" like energy never ends, maybe a ghost or apparition is someones "energy" that is still continuing to flow, so with enough particles in the air they can manifest a copy of themselves through the energy they exhibit, and appear as ghosts beyond the grave, when its just energy....

nah thats all BS, Im Pentecostal

[Lux]

I'm an atheist. Science and logic can, and will, explain most things about our physical universe. It's done a decent job so far.

To be fair, it's fine to believe in what you want to believe in. That's your thing, just like sexuality, political ideals, societal values, etc etc.

However, what is NOT fine is when religions (or at least some faction of them) decides it's a good idea to try and FORCE everyone to believe like they believe. For example, the Crusades. 9/11. Most of the terrorism going on nowadays. I'm not assigning blame to anyone, but anyone with a rational thought in their head SHOULD be able to see the insanity in some of these instances.

Personally, I'm completely opposed to the idea that some almighty being is watching us, directing our lives, and we must live them to please that being. We live our lives to please ourselves, not a single other person. While what we do affects other people, and we should always be aware of that, what we do has the most potent affects upon our own lives, not anyone else's.

So then, what is the controversy of a person's soul? How can we know a soul exists? Can you prove it's there? That a soul is what a person is, instead of a cluster or electrical impulses fired along nerves?

I'll be honest, though. I do enjoy the notion of reincarnation - coming back to live life once again and fix past mistakes. Or come back as a dung beetle because you tried to kill everyone and karma b*tchslapped you. Whatever.

I've had friends try and convert me to their religion, saying I was going to burn in Hell, my soul was going to roast in a lake of fire, I'm a sinner, etc. If they're particularly persistent, I argue them into the "God works in mysterious ways" corner. Most of the time, however, I respond thusly: I enjoy the sins I indulge in - nothing wrong in carnal lust, for instance. And if I'm going to Hell, I'll be glad they aren't there to keep talking to me while I enjoy my fire bath.

The problems come, though, not from religion itself, but from the people who follow it and are either A) unwilling to accept anything else, B) cannot tolerate anyone who does not believe as they do, or C) refuse to even try and listen to compromise.

Personally, I saw our lives are entirely our own. What we do, say, think, feel, truly only impacts outselves, in the end. We can accept certain people (family, friends, spouse, etc.) into our lives more closely than others, but even then, our actions really only end up helping or hurting our specific self in the end.

Boiled down explanation of this rant: Shit happens, then you die. End.

[Blane]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lelcy0vMWT1qd7hayo1_400.jpg


'nuff said :D

[baronzemo]

Totally Islam(TURKEY) but i am not a bigot.

[expo]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lelcy0vMWT1qd7hayo1_400.jpg


'nuff said :D

Golly, that would also mean that everything else you know is from liars. Oh shit, son.

[SimplyTom]

Lets see how intellectual this page really is.

I have been baptised being a CoE Christian I always put this down on applications and such, which require it.


In reality, Being 17, living in essex and gay means that I've probably done more things in the last 5 years that were against the religion, Then most people do in their lives.

Their is no room for religion in my life, until their is finally a "happy we love anyone and everyone no matter what the fuck you are/were/want to be/other happy stuff", Although till that time i shall remain "Other"

[InstantFreakMod]

atheist ftw

[bombshell908]

I'm going to have to agree with this guy.


No.

[Trarara]

i dont say what i believe in because of haters, maybe they wont say anything. but i know that there some place out there always will be someone :P and thats sad, i only believe in 1 thing but i respect other believes.

btw i have used poll ;)

[pbmaster]

i dont say what i believe in because of haters, maybe they wont say anything. but i know that there some place out there always will be someone :P and thats sad, i only believe in 1 thing but i respect other believes.

btw i have used poll ;)
So you didn't want to tell anyone what your religion is, yet you voted in a poll which shows who voted for what?

[M-O-K-R-A-H]

God is fake so I have nothing to apologize to.

k sry for me spazzing admins but you sir are 1 fucking asshole.. Admins, ban this bitch hes hating on relgion thats just fucking straight up rude

[Foolz]

christian

[Trarara]

So you didn't want to tell anyone what your religion is, yet you voted in a poll which shows who voted for what?

oh :P did not see that other can see who picked what xD

Christianity thats the one :D

[SimplyTom]

k sry for me spazzing admins but you sir are 1 fucking asshole.. Admins, ban this bitch hes hating on relgion thats just fucking straight up rude

Excuse me, That is
A disgusting thing to say
As worse as his post


This thread, Was created to be a place to discuss different religions.

His religion means that he doesn't believe in god, So although he could have written that nicer: It is still an opinion.

If you can not deal with these posts about Religions discussion, I suggest you leave not only this thread, But the Intellectual Discussion as well.

[Gisma]

Excuse me, That is
A disgusting thing to say
As worse as his post


This thread, Was created to be a place to discuss different religions.

His religion means that he doesn't believe in god, So although he could have written that nicer: It is still an opinion.

If you can not deal with these posts about Religions discussion, I suggest you leave not only this thread, But the Intellectual Discussion as well.

Do me a favour. Fuck off with this "Disgusting"

[t[]b@_$ERB|@]

Christian,Orthodox <3

[GM1111]

christian orthodox!

[cpx34]

Im a pastafarian, lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

[FuSSioN™]

Am an atheist. I would rather live a normal life rather then going church and doing some weird shit, like running around and pretend god is shaking the fuck out of me. Also then get told that I will reassemble with all my loved ones in heaven.

[cpx34]

Am an atheist. I would rather live a normal life rather then going church and doing some weird shit, like running around and pretend god is shaking the fuck out of me. Also then get told that I will reassemble with all my loved ones in heaven.

lol

[expo]

Am an atheist. I would rather live a normal life rather then going church and doing some weird shit, like running around and pretend god is shaking the fuck out of me. Also then get told that I will reassemble with all my loved ones in heaven.

Pseudonormal life.

[Ailurus]

On my part, my religion is based in Philosophy and logic so I'm more of a agnostic. Religion, is Faith, and Faith is the force and the ability to believe in yourself, in your future, in your capacities, etc. The Religions out there, all they do is use a second person to impersonate yourself, something physical in which you can believe so you can believe yourself. Therefor, my religion is the one of Self-Trust which is the base of all others.

On the part of the church rituals, those exist to create a atmosphere adequate to self-inspection and analise and by consequence to the construction of self-esteem or self-trust. If you can obtain it without the use of Religion practices, which only alternatives are meditation or a serious reflection (Buddhism is the most close to this concept), then great, but still show respect for Religion as it helps many people around the world, giving them the Strength to continue. Sometimes, it may just be the only thing left for you have to believe on.

Religions may go too far in their practices, and their faith can be higher then it should (causing wars). Also theres always bad persons that give a bad face to it, along others that just take use of their followers for their own selfish porpoises (corruption, adultery, discrimination, etc). Plus a few that are sometimes ignorants like our holy pope that was against condoms (he wasn't aware that condoms was a miracle god created which helped save millions of lives of certain slow death (AIDS) and also that no-one will follow abstinence (in a side note, if the Church actually would want everyone to be abstinent, then who would remain to continue the future of our kind? God would create more? = no logic argument) so he better see reality, even if it was a nice dream).

The true objective of religion is far forgotten by the majority and what sadness me the most is that so many religions can't see their all the same, with the same objective and goal, and its in that they should focus at, not make wars among themselves and diverse based in the "appearances" and traditions.

God is inside of everyone, and Religion is just one of the tools to find him.

[Squeezee]

I have my own beliefs in what happened and what brought us to living. I do not believe in the "Big Bang Theory" sorry for the ones that disagree. I do believe in Jesus but I don't think there is anything named a "Hell". I believe that what people say about Hell and imprisonment is false, on the facts that what is happening in today's world. I do not mean Society wise or Economy wise. I am only stating that there is no "Hell" I believe in 2 Things from the bible. There is a "Heaven" and then there is "Purgatory". I believe that hell is not a place but were we are. Hell is Earth and Earth is hell either way you look at it. In the bible no matter what Religion it says that Hell is "Murder, pain, suffering, hatred, and all the above" But if you take a simple look at our world and the way you live and everyone lives. You will see that simply everything that is in Hell is in today's world.

This is what I believe in.

Do not flame me.

[Justino]

I only believe in myself =D

[expo]

First, I really suggest you separate atheism from agnostic cause its diferent things. Atheism is more about descrimination of other religions and the denial of any other option unless those supported by strong evidences of science.
Agnostic is tolerant, more racional and logical, accepts some ideas based in Filosophy and with the facts present from science aswell tries to give its point of view and its theories.

On my part, my religion is based in Filosophy and logic so I'm more of a agnostic. Religion, is Faith, and Faith is the force and the ability to believe in yourself, in your future, in your capacities, etc. The Religions out there, all they do is use a second person to impersonate yourself, something physical in which you can believe so you can believe yourself. Therefor, my religion is the one of Self-Trust and in my opinion its the only real one there is.

On the part of the church rituals everyone refering above, those exist to create a atmosphere adequated to self-inspection and analise and by consequence to the construction of self-esteem or self-trust. If you can obtain it without the use of Religion pratices, which only alternatives are meditation or a serious reflection (Buddhism is the most close to this concept), then great, but still show respect for Religion as it help many people around the world, giving them the Strength to continue. Sometimes, it may just be the only thing left for you have to believe on.

Religions may go too far in their pratices, and their faith can be higher then it should (causing wars). Also theres always bad persons that give a bad face to it, along others that just take use of their followers for their own selfish porpuces (corruption, adultery, descrimination, etc). Plus a few that are sometimes ignorants like our holy pope that was against condoms (he wasn't aware that condoms was a miracle god created which helped save millions of lives of certain slow death and also that noone will follow abstinence (in a side note, if the Church actually would want everyone to be abstinente, then who would remain to continue the future of our kind? God would create more?) so he better see reality, even if it was a nice dream).

The true objective of religion is far forgotten by the majority and what saddess me the most is that so many religions can't see their all the same, with the same objective and goal, and its in that they should focus at, not make wars among themselfs and diverse based in the "appearances" and traditions.

God is inside of everyone, and Religion is just one of the tools to find him.

What is Filosophy?

I have my own beliefs in what happened and what brought us to living. I do not believe in the "Big Bang Theory" sorry for the ones that disagree. I do believe in Jesus but I don't think there is anything named a "Hell". I believe that what people say about Hell and imprisonment is false, on the facts that what is happening in today's world. I do not mean Society wise or Economy wise. I am only stating that there is no "Hell" I believe in 2 Things from the bible. There is a "Heaven" and then there is "Purgatory". I believe that hell is not a place but were we are. Hell is Earth and Earth is hell either way you look at it. In the bible no matter what Religion it says that Hell is "Murder, pain, suffering, hatred, and all the above" But if you take a simple look at our world and the way you live and everyone lives. You will see that simply everything that is in Hell is in today's world.

This is what I believe in.

Do not flame me.

The bible never says anything about purgatory. That was made up by the Roman Catholic Church. The bible does speak of 2 places outside of the material world known as heaven and hell. Heaven is just known as paradise. Hell is whatever you dislike the most. Speculation of hell is being all by yourself since humans like being around other humans. DISCLAIMER: That is speculation, not fact.

[SlashNox]

All germen people are nazi they got it in their blood

[vvv]

All germen people are nazi they got it in their blood


gtfo.

[Unlimited]

Judaism, where are you?

I mean no disrespect to any religion, but those that voted primal-indigenous and Sikhism are full of shit. Begeebuz, I know you're not Buddhist. And there should only be at most one or two people in the Other section if none at all. A fucking Praying Mantis can make better decisions.

This is intended to be a legitimate poll displaying AC Web's religions statistically.

[khaled123]

Islam!

[Ailurus]

What is Filosophy?


I meant Philosophy, sorry. Details under if you not sure what it is.


Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. It is distinguished from other ways of addressing such problems by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on rational argument.


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I mean no disrespect to any religion, but those that voted primal-indigenous and Sikhism are full of shit. Begeebuz, I know you're not Buddhist. And there should only be at most one or two people in the Other section if none at all. A fucking Praying Mantis can make better decisions.

This is intended to be a legitimate poll displaying AC Web's religions statistically.

Agreed, but theres always "funny" guys around.. Just put there as a Religion "I believe in Superman!" and I'm sure a lot will vote in that. <- I'm serious.

[Dorkslayz]

I am a Jedi Knight. Go Google Jedi Knight Religion.

[Ailurus]

I am a Jedi Knight. Go Google Jedi Knight Religion.

Sorry but.. ROFL in RL!

Heres some googled links:
Jedi Knight Religion (http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/Hoaxipedia/Jedi_Knight_Religion/)

"May the farce be with you" (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/08/27/1030053053578.html?oneclick=true)

[expo]

I meant Philosophy, sorry. Details under if you not sure what it is.



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Agreed, but theres always "funny" guys around.. Just put there as a Religion "I believe in Superman!" and I'm sure a lot will vote in that. <- I'm serious.

Would I not know what philosophy was if I intentionally misspelled it like you did?

It is called Pastafarianism. I believe in a flying spaghetti monster as much as I do the infallibility of science.

[Teath]

I personally think any person who believes in any kind of god is... a bit dumb. Sorry.

I mean, it is rationally, logically, and physically impossible that such thing exists.
My opinion is that god was made up by people to explain things they didn't know about, thunder for example. They didn't know where it came so they thought it must be someone.

There was NEVER found any proof about ANY existence of ANY religiously believed thing.

And I'd like to ask the religious people: WHY believe in god? It makes your life a lot harder, you have to pray, think what you do, you can't do many things, etc. etc. etc. WHY? Why would anybody want to live like that? Non-sense.

I'm atheist. I think believing in god IS stupid, but that's my opinion.
I'm rational.

And one thing that has always bothered me with Christianity is this:
You tell me, I should not harm other people, right?
Why did Christians kill more humans to make them believe, than in both World Wars together? Why? Stupidity overwhelming.
You tell us not to harm, and if we don't listen, you kill us. Our country was enslaved for hundreds of years by Christians, just because we had our own original faith at the beginning. You killed us, and made us believe in different things.

[expo]

I personally think any person who believes in any kind of god is... a bit dumb. Sorry.

I mean, it is rationally, logically, and physically impossible that such thing exists.
My opinion is that god was made up by people to explain things they didn't know about, thunder for example. They didn't know where it came so they thought it must be someone.

There was NEVER found any proof about ANY existence of ANY religiously believed thing.

And I'd like to ask the religious people: WHY believe in god? It makes your life a lot harder, you have to pray, think what you do, you can't do many things, etc. etc. etc. WHY? Why would anybody want to live like that? Non-sense.

I'm atheist. I think believing in god IS stupid, but that's my opinion.
I'm rational.

And one thing that has always bothered me with Christianity is this:
You tell me, I should not harm other people, right?
Why did Christians kill more humans to make them believe, than in both World Wars together? Why? Stupidity overwhelming.
You tell us not to harm, and if we don't listen, you kill us. Our country was enslaved for hundreds of years by Christians, just because we had our own original faith at the beginning. You killed us, and made us believe in different things.

Which can be said about anything anybody believes in.

Humans are rarely rational or logical. As for physical, we are only as sure as we can touch and see something. Outside of that, we rely on expanding technology to help us understand. Yet we are flawed, as are the machines we make.
The thing about opinions are that they aren't factual. People say the sky is tyedye regardless of what lack of color it really is.

Well, if you understood Christianity, you would notice that it says God is not of the physical world, so by trying to measure up what is physical about something that is not physical, all you are doing is agreeing with what the Bible says.

Why not believe in God? Outside looking in, it seems harder, but then again, people tend to be more at peace with it. Praying isn't difficult at all. If you don't think what you are doing, you are the reason the world has so many problems. Why would anybody live like nothing matters? What would be the point to be alive? That is true nonsense.

You being atheist is just a belief system. You have the right to believe that believing in a God is stupid, but it is still a belief.
Being atheist doesn't make you rational. Believing that one makes the other is arrogance.

Well, that is true. But you are forgetting that there are many sects of Christianity that put a twist on what the Bible says to fit it as they please. That is psudeoChristianity. It is like saying all Aryans people are Nazis. Nazis had to be Aryans. But not all Aryans believed in Nazism. See where I am going? Besides, you don't understand what the Bible says beyond what the media, friends, and anti-Christians say. If you don't even understand fully what the Bible says, how can you make an informed decision on the religion as a whole? That is neither rational nor logical. You call yourself rational, but you are looking through everything with a closed mind unwilling to listen.

I'd like a factual link to where Christians killed more people than both World Wars. They must be Christians, not people who labeled themselves as Christians. Without the backing data, making a hasty statement is unwise and weakens an argument.
I am a Christian, but I've had people not listen and I never harmed them. Well, that just debunked your lie about Christians killing people as a generalization.
"our own original faith at the beginning." This is interesting, you have a faith in something else that you decree to be correct, but slander others who believe differently. If they had made everyone believe differently, how would we be here having this discussion?

I am astonished how intolerant people are over other people. You sit here on your high horse slandering Christianity like we are still in the few hundred years of history. What makes you any better than those who murdered others way back when? People were killed for many other things that weren't because of religion, but you don't care about that. You follow situational ethics, which is the most irrational, illogical, intolerant thing you can do.

[Teath]

These were Christians, the purpose of the big wars were to make Estonians believe in God. Estonians were earth belief very long time ago. It was never made, it grew and formed in a very very long time. Then, the Christians came, and told us, that we must believe in their God, else we will be killed. We didn't agree to change, and they killed us. 9/10 of Estonians were killed. It's all our history. They burned our villages, destroyed our crops and stole our goods. Is that Christianity? They said we are devils and we have to be turned into Christian belief. Why? We didn't agree, and were killed. Is that Christianity?

Christians destroyed our people, destroyed our country, destroyed our culture, destroyed our faith and belief, and took over out country. How DARE you say we are intolerant!?

Well, that just debunked your lie about Christians killing people as a generalization

Right now you insulted my whole country, our history, and all Estonian people. Please read: http://www.everyculture.com/Cr-Ga/Estonia.html and understand what you just said.

[Invictus]

Well fact is that religion has done more harm than good in human history.Start from Crusades where Christians has killed milions in name of GoD to modern time where Muslims doing the same mistake.I belive in GoD, but I won't stick to funny "Rules" which has been wroten by humans.99% of hardcore belivers are limited ppl.

I apologize if I offended any of you.You don't need to agree with me, but that's just my opinion...

[Wolfly]

These were Christians, the purpose of the big wars were to make Estonians believe in God. Estonians were earth belief very long time ago. It was never made, it grew and formed in a very very long time. Then, the Christians came, and told us, that we must believe in their God, else we will be killed. We didn't agree to change, and they killed us. 9/10 of Estonians were killed. It's all our history. They burned our villages, destroyed our crops and stole our goods. Is that Christianity? They said we are devils and we have to be turned into Christian belief. Why? We didn't agree, and were killed. Is that Christianity?

Christians destroyed our people, destroyed our country, destroyed our culture, destroyed our faith and belief, and took over out country. How DARE you say we are intolerant!?



Right now you insulted my whole country, our history, and all Estonian people. Please read: http://www.everyculture.com/Cr-Ga/Estonia.html and understand what you just said.

Sa oled liiga kinnise maailmavaatega. Usk ei ole halb asi.

I used to think a lot like you. That Christianity is rotten to the core and the proof being in what happened to us. Still, saying we were occupied by people labeling themselves as Christians than being occupied by true Christians. Now, I haven't read the Bible, but does it not forbid murder?
The purpose of the wars were never to make us believe in God. That's just plain naive. Every conflict has a reason and the real grounds of war. In our case it was just to gain more land and wealth.

Believing in God, or anything for that matter, isn't a bad thing. To my mind, calling someone stupid because of their faith shows large amounts of ignorance and narrow-mindedness. It shows that you're approaching the entire argument from one perspective, which covers just a fraction of the situation.
As with any group/organization, we only notice those who are more vocal and aggressive. The truth is, however, that most of the time they are just a minority.
In my opinion the entire idea of religion isn't to worship some superior being, but to assess yourself as a person and improve on that.

[Teath]

Religion makes living harder.
You have to pray, you have to obey certain rules written by actually random people.
Why? Why believe in it? It doesn't give you anything.

100th post =)

[Aid405]

Religion makes living harder.
You have to pray, you have to obey certain rules written by actually random people.
Why? Why believe in it? It doesn't give you anything.

100th post =)

Coolie, congratz bf.
(bf= not to be confused with boyfriend (ima not gay) , BF as in best friend)

[Wolfly]

Religion makes living harder.
You have to pray, you have to obey certain rules written by actually random people.
Why? Why believe in it? It doesn't give you anything.

100th post =)

You fail to understand that everything isn't materialistic. Everything isn't black and white. There are actions that have a immediate impact and then there are actions that have a later effect.
We live in a world where we obey the law. It was written by random people as well, so why do you obey it?

Religion is not something you choose to do. You either believe in it or you do not. If you believe in it then the restrictions matter nothing to you.

[Teath]

You fail to understand that everything isn't materialistic. Everything isn't black and white. There are actions that have a immediate impact and then there are actions that have a later effect.
We live in a world where we obey the law. It was written by random people as well, so why do you obey it?

Religion is not something you choose to do. You either believe in it or you do not. If you believe in it then the restrictions matter nothing to you.

Doesn't give him right to insult our (including you) history.
Christianity has done more bad than good.
They have killed our people to make us believe.

[Wolfly]

You didn't understand what he said nor did you read what I said.

What I said is that converting us was just an excuse to invade. This also means that they were simply plunderers hiding behind the church.

I'd like a factual link to where Christians killed more people than both World Wars. They must be Christians, not people who labeled themselves as Christians.

Emphasis on the second sentence.

Asja mõte on selles, et tõeline kristlane järgib Piibli reegleid. Saksa ordu, mis meid laastas ja hävitas lihtsalt peitis tõelist rünnaku põhjust meie uskupööramise vabanduse taga. Järelikult nad ei olnud nii öelda tõelised usklikud, vaid lihtsalt nimetasid ennast nii.

Sorry for not speaking English, tried a different approach.

[Teath]

Minu kogu jutu mõte on selles, et MIKS kuradi päralt järgida Piibli reegleid, kui saab elada lihtsamalt, mitte kummardades midagi, mida ratsionaalselt võttes ei saa eksisteerida? Miks orjastada ennast kellelegi, kelle olemasolu pole kunagi tõestatud? Mis on selle mõte? Te ütlete, et see aitab endasse uskuda. Otse vastupidi, sa ei usu, et sa saad ka ise elada, sa loodad abi mingilt kõrgemalt olevuselt, ja seda saamata, usud, et oled ise midagi valesti teinud. See hävitab sinu enesekindlust ja eneseusku. Sa lased ennast orjastada ilma mingi põhjuseta.

Sorry from me too, my text was directed to Wolfly, and I can't express myself in English as good as I can in my own language.

[Wolfly]

Aga miks see hävitab su enesekindlust ja eneseusku? Äkki see just suurendab seda? Kas sul pole nii, et kui sa võtad midagi ette ja mitu inimest toetavad sind, siis sa tunned ennast palju enesekindlamalt? Nad võivad ju arvata, et Jumal toetab neid ning ehk annab see neile enesekindlust. Kui nii, siis miks ka mitte? Arvata, et oled midagi valesti teinud ja Jumalalt karistada saanud võib just läkitada rohkem pingutama.
Ja nagu ma enne ütlesin, Jumalasse uskumine ei ole valik. Sa kas usud või mitte, mingit vahepealset ei ole. Ja kui kord juba tõeliselt usud, siis see kummardamine ei häiri. Samuti aitab näiteks kirikus käimine saavutada mingit kogukonda kuuluvuse tunnet.

Ma olen ise agnostik, ehk ei usu aga samas ei ütle ära ka. Igal asjal on omad positiives ja negatiivsed küljed ning usk ei ole erand. Meil eestlastel võib olla raskem näha neid külgi, sest nagu ma lugesin on Eestis maailma väikseim usklike protsent :P.

[Teath]

Aga miks see hävitab su enesekindlust ja eneseusku? Äkki see just suurendab seda? Kas sul pole nii, et kui sa võtad midagi ette ja mitu inimest toetavad sind, siis sa tunned ennast palju enesekindlamalt? Nad võivad ju arvata, et Jumal toetab neid ning ehk annab see neile enesekindlust. Kui nii, siis miks ka mitte? Arvata, et oled midagi valesti teinud ja Jumalalt karistada saanud võib just läkitada rohkem pingutama.
Ja nagu ma enne ütlesin, Jumalasse uskumine ei ole valik. Sa kas usud või mitte, mingit vahepealset ei ole. Ja kui kord juba tõeliselt usud, siis see kummardamine ei häiri. Samuti aitab näiteks kirikus käimine saavutada mingit kogukonda kuuluvuse tunnet.

Ma olen ise agnostik, ehk ei usu aga samas ei ütle ära ka. Igal asjal on omad positiives ja negatiivsed küljed ning usk ei ole erand. Meil eestlastel võib olla raskem näha neid külgi, sest nagu ma lugesin on Eestis maailma väikseim usklike protsent :P.

Mis näitab, et eestlasted mõtlevad maailmas kõige ratsionaalsemalt.
Oma osa selles on ka fakt, et usk toodi sisse vägivalla ja tapmisega.

I will go back to English, I'm not interested in punishment =)

[Gnoppy]

I am a buddhist

[expo]

These were Christians, the purpose of the big wars were to make Estonians believe in God. Estonians were earth belief very long time ago. It was never made, it grew and formed in a very very long time. Then, the Christians came, and told us, that we must believe in their God, else we will be killed. We didn't agree to change, and they killed us. 9/10 of Estonians were killed. It's all our history. They burned our villages, destroyed our crops and stole our goods. Is that Christianity? They said we are devils and we have to be turned into Christian belief. Why? We didn't agree, and were killed. Is that Christianity?

Christians destroyed our people, destroyed our country, destroyed our culture, destroyed our faith and belief, and took over out country. How DARE you say we are intolerant!?



Right now you insulted my whole country, our history, and all Estonian people. Please read: http://www.everyculture.com/Cr-Ga/Estonia.html and understand what you just said.

Wow, you just insulted every person one the face of this earth at any given point in time by making generalizations. Congratulations on being ethnocentric as well. Would you prove to me that they were, in fact, Christians? What someone says they are and what they actually follow through in belief with are 2 different things. Take Islam for example, on 9/11 people claiming to be Islamic flew planes into buildings. I strongly doubt they had an understanding of Islam beyond what they were taught by a radical sect.

What your belief was doesn't change that you are accusing people of being exactly the same as others without a firm gasp on the very belief system to make an educated decision. I respect it, but I don't believe it.

No, the people claiming to be Christians came. 9 out of 11 Estonians were killed by radicals that had a distorted view of Christianity as taught by the Catholic Church which is well known for being psuedo-Christian. Is that tolerant to accuse me of believing the same thing? I didn't burn your crops. I didn't steal your goods. Is that tolerant? You tell me why you are accusing Christians of something that they didn't do? You are intolerant of Christians because of what pseudo-Christians did. Is that tolerance?

You are intolerant of my belief not because of what my belief did, but what the Catholic Church did. You should read up on history and accuse the right people. You are part of the reason the world is the way it is today. You fail to understand the history beyond your narrow-minded views and blindly go name-calling. How dare YOU blame Christianity for something that its views are about then defend your intolerance of it without an understand and then tell me that I shouldn't call YOU intolerant!?

You should read that link because at no point did it talk about anything of what you said. Right now, you insulted everyone else. Please gain an understanding of Christianity before you blindly run your trap and sound even more ignorant. Then you can come back and make a reply.

Well fact is that religion has done more harm than good in human history.Start from Crusades where Christians has killed milions in name of GoD to modern time where Muslims doing the same mistake.I belive in GoD, but I won't stick to funny "Rules" which has been wroten by humans.99% of hardcore belivers are limited ppl.

I apologize if I offended any of you.You don't need to agree with me, but that's just my opinion...

The fact is that religion is assumed to be just the big, bad Christians as portrayed by the media and misinformed educators that lead people to believe random shit. The Crusaders where lead by the Catholic Church, not Christianity. (Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades). I respect people for their beliefs, but I don't respect loud-mouth loonies, misinformed morons, rambling retards, intolerant idiots, and narrow-minded nincompoops. If you fit in that category, I am sure to chew you out.

You won't stick to funny rules, yet you live in society. Most of what becomes laws and rules tend to be useless. I'd like to let you know that everyone is a hardcore believer in something, which would just make everyone limited which is basically intolerant. So everyone is intolerant, including yourself.

You haven't offended me yet, but I did want to clear up the confusing about the Crusades.

Religion makes living harder.
You have to pray, you have to obey certain rules written by actually random people.
Why? Why believe in it? It doesn't give you anything.

It seems to be harder when on the outside looking in. If you want a clear view, you would have to look from both sides, not just one narrow angle. Why would you chose to live if you believe in nothing? Why would any of us be here?

[Exiled]

I'm christ. Or well. Im do not believe in god. I'm more of nonreligious. But I cant say I am nonreligious cause i'm not...I think i'm a mix between Christ and Nonreligious

[expo]

Doesn't give him right to insult our (including you) history.
Christianity has done more bad than good.
They have killed our people to make us believe.

It doesn't give you the right to insult everyone else by generalizing and stereotyping people.
You are intolerant. You are misinformed. You are narrow-minded.
Your people have killed others for other reasons, the only difference is you had a mindset of allowing death by some but seeing others as wrong.

Let me give you an example. When Hitler and the Nazis murdered millions of Jews, they were seen as evil. Well, a Nazi was normally a German, but not every German was a Nazi. See how misinformation works? It would be wrong to hold Germans today accountable for what radical people did in their history. In fact, many Germans didn't agree with or follow Hitler. It is the same with Christianity. The Catholic Church did that to Estonia, but you are blaming Christianity.

[Teath]

Fact is, that Christianity is outdated. Strongly outdated.
If you still take Bible as a truth, then you should also believe, that people can walk on water and use one bread to feed thousands of people? Really?

You say I am part of the reason what world is like today. So, what is it like today? We have democracy on modern countries, we have good education, we have advanced science. Thank you for calling me to be a part of it. We have rational thinking people, with some others, that fail to learn anything in even 2 000 years and still believe in something that science has proved long time ago to be impossible.

As Wolfly said, in Estonia, we have the least religious people in the world. Maybe we have the most rational thinking people? Maybe because the Christianity was brought in with fire and swords? Maybe because we have understood that living without belief is easier and maybe, maybe it's wiser to believe what science actually proves to be real, not think something random and start believing in it.

I notice, with all these posts, you still don't answer my most important question.
Why the hell would you believe in something that is never proved. A random man once said "Ooo, there's a god in the sky, all hail him, he will free you from your problems!". And boom! everyone believes him! Then I could go to street and say "I'm a God, all hail me, I will give you anything you want!", would everyone on the street immediately start bowing to me? No! Because in this world, people are smarter, they actually THINK! Can you believe it! The don't believe what everyone tells them! They use their head! So should YOU use your head and actually THINK, if it is wise, is it actually possible!

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[expo]

Emphasis on the second sentence.

Asja mõte on selles, et tõeline kristlane järgib Piibli reegleid. Saksa ordu, mis meid laastas ja hävitas lihtsalt peitis tõelist rünnaku põhjust meie uskupööramise vabanduse taga. Järelikult nad ei olnud nii öelda tõelised usklikud, vaid lihtsalt nimetasid ennast nii.

Sorry for not speaking English, tried a different approach.

That is my whole point. People tend to take a powerful tool of society and use it for their own means. The Catholic Church was the leading religion back then and it intentionally had a distorted view of Christianity. At no point in the Bible does it say you can do something on earth to get into heaven. In fact, it says the opposite. The Bible says that by no means can a human get into heaven. It was a sacrifice of God's son to man to forgive their sins. It was a gift for whoever wants to accept it. I've never seen in the Bible where it says that only clergymen can read it and understand it. The Bible was written in coin a Greek, the commoner language. The point was that the Bible was open to everyone, not limited by few like the Catholic Church did. They translated it into Latin so people couldn't read it.

I apologize, but I can't read Estonian and translators don't do a good job on language-specific syntax.

[Teath]

That is my whole point. People tend to take a powerful tool of society and use it for their own means. The Catholic Church was the leading religion back then and it intentionally had a distorted view of Christianity. At no point in the Bible does it say you can do something on earth to get into heaven. In fact, it says the opposite. The Bible says that by no means can a human get into heaven. It was a sacrifice of God's son to man to forgive their sins. It was a gift for whoever wants to accept it. I've never seen in the Bible where it says that only clergymen can read it and understand it. The Bible was written in coin a Greek, the commoner language. The point was that the Bible was open to everyone, not limited by few like the Catholic Church did. They translated it into Latin so people couldn't read it.

I apologize, but I can't read Estonian and translators don't do a good job on language-specific syntax.

Answer my post, don't skip it by repeating the same thing you've said 10 times already.

[pakman123]

I'm my own God.

[expo]

Fact is, that Christianity is outdated. Strongly outdated.
If you still take Bible as a truth, then you should also believe, that people can walk on water and use one bread to feed thousands of people? Really?

You say I am part of the reason what world is like today. So, what is it like today? We have democracy on modern countries, we have good education, we have advanced science. Thank you for calling me to be a part of it. We have rational thinking people, with some others, that fail to learn anything in even 2 000 years and still believe in something that science has proved long time ago to be impossible.

As Wolfly said, in Estonia, we have the least religious people in the world. Maybe we have the most rational thinking people? Maybe because the Christianity was brought in with fire and swords? Maybe because we have understood that living without belief is easier and maybe, maybe it's wiser to believe what science actually proves to be real, not think something random and start believing in it.

I notice, with all these posts, you still don't answer my most important question.
Why the hell would you believe in something that is never proved. A random man once said "Ooo, there's a god in the sky, all hail him, he will free you from your problems!". And boom! everyone believes him! Then I could go to street and say "I'm a God, all hail me, I will give you anything you want!", would everyone on the street immediately start bowing to me? No! Because in this world, people are smarter, they actually THINK! Can you believe it! The don't believe what everyone tells them! They use their head! So should YOU use your head and actually THINK, if it is wise, is it actually possible!

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The fact is, you belief Christianity is outdated. If it was, by that logic so would human beings.
Well, if you can show me the son of God today, I would show you a man who can walk on water and use bread to feed thousands. The only person to do that was the son of God, not Joe the plumber. You don't even understand what the Bible says, but you make smartass comments on it.

We have a poor form of corrupt Democracy, education is mediocre at best and only taught from one extremely Liberal angle, advanced science that can't even explain its own origin. All great points if you like mediocrity. You are welcome for being mediocre. Rational thinking in terms of being close-minded, yet in 2000 years they are no different than everyone else. Science can't even prove its own origin, so we should just trust it. Someone saw bigfoot, it must be real because they saw it.

You know, Wolfy also talked about your lack of understanding on Christianity. But you just skipped that whole part. You have the least religious people, but you say you aren't intolerant. Hmmmmm. But you think you have the most rational people. Why are you so ethnocentric? Maybe you want those invaders to be true Christians so you can blame someone so you don't sound like a rambling, ignorant child. Now you come here with a closed mind. What is the difference between a murderer and a narrow-minded person? Belief. Maybe the reason that you think living without a belief is easier is because it is an oxymoron? Maybe it is easier for the mentally weak to believe science is infallible yet throughout history, it has been wrong many times. Science is based on random shit. Matter didn't just decide to explode causing a universe to form. Planets don't just form and start spinning. The laws of physics don't just appear. Slime doesn't just decide it wants to be a fish.

Interesting, in all these posts you never even asked that question. How can I answer your most important question if you don't ask it? Simple; I can't.
Why would you assume it can't be "proved"? Last I checked, plenty of events in the Bible have been proven factual as well as the logic of the Bible. You simply say it is all fake because you are restricted to the ideology of time and matter. you have no understanding beyond that simplistic mindset. You would rather believe that some random guy said "Hey, I found some dirt, it looks old. It is old. Holy shit, the world is a million billion years (really old in science terms). We were made from puddles of slime because this ape looks like us. Hey, there is a big bang that automagically happened and caused a wild universe to appear". Yeah, that is so totally more rational. The world, smarter? Bahahahahaha. Do you know the phrase: "common sense isn't common"? What I am trying to say is that we believe we are smarter because we know more than people 100 years ago, yet in 100 years, our smart will be plain stupidity. Oh snap, we just fucked rational thinkers up. Whoops. Tell me, have you conducted every science experiment, research project, and law of physics? I doubt it. You just believe what someone says because others say they are credible. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you still believe what someone else tells you. They use their heard, and bang it against harder objects. How about you use YOUR head and add some real fucking logic, not that nonsense bullshit the education system taught you? I'd also suggest you take a philosophy class. Socrates said I am wise because I know nothing. Well, people who just think they are wise because they think something is possible are really idiots.

Hey, guess what? We live in the Matrix because everything fells, smells, sounds, tastes, and looks real. Science just shat a brick.

Answer my post, don't skip it by repeating the same thing you've said 10 times already.

How about you chill the fuck out so I can understand your incoherent rambling? Don't assume I am skipping shit when you made so many ignorant posts previously. Take a Ritalin. Also, why don't you stop repeating the same thing over and over instead of accusing me of doing it making you a hypocrite?

[Teath]

With all those long comments you could make a book from, you STILL didn't answer my question.
Why the heck do you believe in God?

[expo]

With all those long comments you could make a book from, you STILL didn't answer my question.
Why the heck do you believe in God?

All those long comments debunk what you say. A rational-minded person would easily be able to retort them if they were incorrect. If you refuse to read what I have to say, skip my posts, then demand I answer your own question, I won't. This is ID, not Estonia. I don't give a rat's ass about what the culture is over there unless I visit it, but you are on the internet which is worldwide, as well as being on this forum in this section. If you can't post in ID the way you are supposed to, leave. This section is for intellectual discussion, not some ethnocentric radical spewing bullshit on others and being intolerant because someone else's views are different. What I mean to say is: Get the fuck out of ID and let Wolfy represent the Estonian views so I can at least have a calm counterpart that can use factual data and intellect to discuss this.


Mod's note:
If I get banned for flaming, so should everyone else who has posted in this thread.

[Baked]

I'm a follower of Thrall.

[Teath]

All those long comments debunk what you say. A rational-minded person would easily be able to retort them if they were incorrect. If you refuse to read what I have to say, skip my posts, then demand I answer your own question, I won't. This is ID, not Estonia. I don't give a rat's ass about what the culture is over there unless I visit it, but you are on the internet which is worldwide, as well as being on this forum in this section. If you can't post in ID the way you are supposed to, leave. This section is for intellectual discussion, not some ethnocentric radical spewing bullshit on others and being intolerant because someone else's views are different. What I mean to say is: Get the fuck out of ID and let Wolfy represent the Estonian views so I can at least have a calm counterpart that can use factual data and intellect to discuss this.


Mod's note:
If I get banned for flaming, so should everyone else who has posted in this thread.

And why the heck you believe in god? =)
Why won't you answer that, instead of flaming me because of my comments?

[expo]

And why the heck you believe in god? =)
Why won't you answer that, instead of flaming me because of my comments?

Why the heck do you keep ignoring my comments and believing that every Christian is evil?
Why won't you answer me instead of skipping everything I say while claiming to be logical?
Why do you keep flaming my comments instead of answering my questions with logical, factual comments instead of opinions and lies?

[Teath]

You answer my question with questions.
Answer my question first,
Why do you believe in God?

[expo]

You answer my question with questions.
Answer my question first,
Why do you believe in God?

I already told you, if you don't want to read what I have to say, and disprove it with your claim of being rational, I will not answer your question. In order for me to answer you, you must disprove what I have said. If you don't, you don't want me to give you an answer. Your chose.

[Teath]

I have read your comments very deeply. Most of the time you put down science, everything else is either flaming me or protecting what Bible says.

You haven't given me any questions before I asked you,

Why do you believe in God?
I guess you can't answer that.
How sad.

[expo]

I have read your comments very deeply. Most of the time you put down science, everything else is either flaming me or protecting what Bible says.

You haven't given me any questions before I asked you,

Why do you believe in God?
I guess you can't answer that.
How sad.

Interesting. Your comments put down religion, namely Christianity as well as flaming me and protecting science.

You have never answered any of my questions, thus I am not going to answer yours. If you don't want to answer other peoples' questions, expect people not to answer yours.

Why do you believe the infallibility of science?
I guess you can't answer that.
How sad, indeed.

[Teath]

I don't think it's infallible, it just makes a lot more sense than people walking on water.

[Wolfly]

I can see why people tend to believe in what Science tells us. That doesn't mean I completely shut myself off to the concept of religion, though. I'm going to go on a limb here again (I swear one day I'll get off my ass and read the Bible, that's a promise), but Science gives us explanations for things. Some of them are things that we can easily try out for ourselves and see that it's true. The Bible, however, talks about the spiritual side more than anything. What is written in there isn't something you can just prove by mixing water with dirt. Thus people tend to reject it, forsaking the entire concept in favor of something a lot quicker and what seems more reliable to them. This is only natural, of course.

The reason why people believe in religion is incredibly simple to my mind: To have a goal in life.

Asja mõte on selles, et tõeline kristlane järgib Piibli reegleid. Saksa ordu, mis meid laastas ja hävitas lihtsalt peitis tõelist rünnaku põhjust meie uskupööramise vabanduse taga. Järelikult nad ei olnud nii öelda tõelised usklikud, vaid lihtsalt nimetasid ennast nii.
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The point is that a true Christian follows the rules of the Bible. The Teutonic which pillaged and decimated us simply concealed the true reasons for their attack behind the cover of trying to convert us to Christianity. This means that they weren't true Christians, so to speak, but they only claimed they were.

[Poison]

-Other

I believe in my own beliefs :)

[hqtitan]

I find it funny that the majority of people who have voted in this poll claim to be Christians, yet there are very few, if any, people here who actually act like Christians. I voted Christianity, btw.

[expo]

I don't think it's infallible, it just makes a lot more sense than people walking on water.

You still haven't shown a source for more than one person walking on water. Also, how does evolution from puddles of slime make any more sense?

I can see why people tend to believe in what Science tells us. That doesn't mean I completely shut myself off to the concept of religion, though. I'm going to go on a limb here again (I swear one day I'll get off my ass and read the Bible, that's a promise), but Science gives us explanations for things. Some of them are things that we can easily try out for ourselves and see that it's true. The Bible, however, talks about the spiritual side more than anything. What is written in there isn't something you can just prove by mixing water with dirt. Thus people tend to reject it, forsaking the entire concept in favor of something a lot quicker and what seems more reliable to them. This is only natural, of course.

The reason why people believe in religion is incredibly simple to my mind: To have a goal in life.


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The point is that a true Christian follows the rules of the Bible. The Teutonic which pillaged and decimated us simply concealed the true reasons for their attack behind the cover of trying to convert us to Christianity. This means that they weren't true Christians, so to speak, but they only claimed they were.

I agree with parts of science, just not the parts with silly theories. I would suggest you do read the Bible to at least understand what it says. I am not saying you have to believe or agree with it, but at least you will know what it says beyond what Joe Blow says. Science and religion go hand in hand. Albert Einstein even said so. That is the whole point of faith. People put faith in a scientist for doing something. Others put faith in a Book that has been around for a very long time and yet hasn't been removed from society.

Exactly. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs.

They follow it to the best of their abilities. The sad reality is that people use religion for their own means.

[Rivkah]

I believe there is no such deities which to base ourselves upon. Its either past alien visitations and due to their superiority we thought them to be gods, and/or our need to have a purpose. Partial Post in relation to this subject: Here (http://www.ac-web.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1128195#post1128195)

[noam]

I am Christan. more specifically im a Methodist but i do not agree with the official opinions of the Methodist Church on the situation in the middle east.

i also believe in intelligent design. basically, god created the laws and rules of physics knowing that we would be the outcome.

also, there are rules of physics that support the existence of god.

Look up Schrodinger's cat. it means god does not exist unless we are observing him but he is still there.

also, the difference between a rule and a law is rules have exceptions.

[Nasro]

Well.. I'm Muslim but I respect all other beliefs as well. I believe that god is there.. He sees us.. There will be a day were we all die.. and so.. Yet I respect other opinions. Thanks :P

[DataBase379]

I don't believe in 'God'. But I respect those who do.

[expo]

I don't believe in 'God'. But I respect those who do.

See, this is a great example of a what a good response is. You politely state your opinion, but not bash others.

[DataBase379]

I don't O.o lol I said "| But I respect those who do.| "

[expo]

I don't O.o lol I said "| But I respect those who do.| "

Reread what I said.

[DataBase379]

My bad mate.

[cinders2]

The reason why people believe in religion is incredibly simple to my mind: To have a goal in life.




Best Sentence Ever, and quite true. Plus the Big Bang theory has it's holes to (It's a Theory not a proven fact, So Science and Religion can stop battling it out) Before Science the Bible was there to give people answers to bigger questions they couldn't understand! People accepted that they had a greater purpose and to get into Heaven they must do good in life. Religion and Hammurabi were really the first creators of Laws. Just sayin'

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[Despair]

Jedi

[Wolferine]

I live by the book of Mormon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gm6JYFdnD8

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[DeathGFx]

Im a nonreligious christian. I dont believe in the church to be a place of worship, but I believe that if I want to pray to god, I can do it anywhere. I respect other religions for the fact that no one knows the truth.

I am also borderline worshiping Googlism (http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/).

[Saintslayer]

Christian

[Bro]

"Male" = Sex, Alcohol so on.

[..::SeVen::..]

"Male" = Sex, Alcohol so on.

o.O

[Aldaeld666]

I don't believe in any religion, but I consider myself as a pagan asatru, because I love its culture, mythology, history, etc.

[Slipknotn209]

Well clearly I'm a saint, but I don't believe in religion. Therefor, I am an Angel of Darkness, also known as an asshole.

[xsnowfoxx]

I'm a Pastafarian.

[Fullspeed]

Christian,was baptheised in a ortodox church,but I consider myself a greco-catholic

[Phil]

I am swayed by many religions but am not *baptized*. I like to take many ideals from many religions and combine them to make my own self better. I would refer to myself as Agnostic I suppose as I'm not rejecting any god per say but I refer to myself as an enlightened being.

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[Teath]

I still don't understand how anyone can believe in such thing, having no diagnosed mental illness or what so ever.