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mattatheos
07-09-2010, 06:01 AM
Our current President of the United States of America is President Obama. What do you all think about him? What do you like and dislike about him? What are his strengths and weakness?

expo
07-09-2010, 06:42 AM
He speaks well. But he sucks at leading a country. He motivates people like Hitler did, but he is only capable of leading the weak-minded into a false reality.

mattatheos
07-09-2010, 06:44 AM
He speaks well. But he sucks at leading a country. He motivates people like Hitler did, but he is only capable of leading the weak-minded into a false reality.

Explain. I'm not disagreeing with you or challenging you, I just want you to expand on what you said, please.

expo
07-09-2010, 07:00 AM
Explain. I'm not disagreeing with you or challenging you, I just want you to expand on what you said, please.

I just said it in the most basic form I could.

mattatheos
07-09-2010, 05:38 PM
I just said it in the most basic form I could.

No like, what do you mean he motivates people like Hitler did? How is he leading the weak-minded into a false reality? What is the false reality he is leading the weak-minded to?

expo
07-09-2010, 08:29 PM
No like, what do you mean he motivates people like Hitler did? How is he leading the weak-minded into a false reality? What is the false reality he is leading the weak-minded to?

He motivated a country to believe what he said was practically divine. Then the weak-minded actually believed it. And so far, he has lead them into a deeper, darker hole than he started with.

mattatheos
07-09-2010, 10:13 PM
He motivated a country to believe what he said was practically divine. Then the weak-minded actually believed it. And so far, he has lead them into a deeper, darker hole than he started with.

I don't follow politics that much so I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

Herbal Blend
07-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Hitler took advantage of the country in its greatest time of need. Everyone was poor and without food. He promised them bread and water and he then became a god like figure to them, willing to do anything for him.

Obama has taken over in the middle of an economic crisis, and he isn't doing anything to make it better. Get this Nationwide healthcare outta here, you should have to work fro your health. I'm tired of all these presidents who come in, and use a temporary fix for the economy, such as Social Security. By the time it reaches our generation, it will be gone and the economy will once again be in an even worse state then it is now. I wouldn't be surprised to Obama impeached sometime in the near future.

mattatheos
07-09-2010, 10:21 PM
Hitler took advantage of the country in its greatest time of need. Everyone was poor and without food. He promised them bread and water and he then became a god like figure to them, willing to do anything for him.

Obama has taken over in the middle of an economic crisis, and he isn't doing anything to make it better. Get this Nationwide healthcare outta here, you should have to work fro your health. I'm tired of all these presidents who come in, and use a temporary fix for the economy, such as Social Security. By the time it reaches our generation, it will be gone and the economy will once again be in an even worse state then it is now. I wouldn't be surprised to Obama impeached sometime in the near future.

Is it really all that bad? Could he be impeached? I haven't heard a thing about it. I doubt he'd be impeached for the same reason how he won the election, he's the first black president. It is the main reason why he won the election, in my opinion anyways, and I don't think America would impeach its first black president.

Herbal Blend
07-09-2010, 10:24 PM
Is it really all that bad? Could he be impeached? I haven't heard a thing about it. I doubt he'd be impeached for the same reason how he won the election, he's the first black president. It is the main reason why he won the election, in my opinion anyways, and I don't think America would impeach its first black president.

He wouldn't be impeached directly because of the nationwide healthcare. It's more so the way he's handling things. A lot of people are angry because he fired the military officer in charge of the operations in the Middle East, because the guy gave his honest opinion on Obama and Obama didn't like it.

The president needs to step up to the plate and get shit done. And not the shit he wants done, but the shit america wants done.

Mari0
07-10-2010, 12:56 AM
weakness - hes black
strength - hes black

Syke
07-10-2010, 02:50 AM
All president suck, the current one is no exception, some just suck harder than others. *cough* Bush *cough*

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 02:52 AM
All president suck, the current one is no exception, some just suck harder than others. *cough* Bush *cough*

This. lol :P

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 03:02 AM
is this a so called intellectual forum? do you have freaking any idea how hard it is to the most powerful land in the world? think about all the pressure he goes through? when he gives his speech, he is just using a so called "mask" to hide his worries and other stuff. Leading a country isnt as easy as music or what you got your best grade in, Its all about diplomancy and doing 1 thing at a time , I bet any of you being president for 1 year wouldnt be as good as any of the others.

These posts are WEAK

Syke
07-10-2010, 03:12 AM
is this a so called intellectual forum? do you have freaking any idea how hard it is to the most powerful land in the world? think about all the pressure he goes through? when he gives his speech, he is just using a so called "mask" to hide his worries and other stuff. Leading a country isnt as easy as music or what you got your best grade in, Its all about diplomancy and doing 1 thing at a time , I bet any of you being president for 1 year wouldnt be as good as any of the others.

These posts are WEAK

It's our fault (our, meaning the USA) that the rest of the world hates us, bitching about it doesn't do any good. But it shows whose pin you were wearing with a little too much enthusiasm last voting season.

Think about it. In WW2 Russia and the United States were allied against the Axis forces, guess what? All Russians fucking hate our guts. Back in the 60s we helped Afghanistan defend against the Russian invasion, and holy shit look at that, the entire country of Afghanistan hates us.

We stick out nose where it doesn't belong and make enemies out of our allies because the USA has a massive ego that needs constant stoking so we are always barging into other people's countries telling them how to run things and then we all turn around and wonder why every hates us.

That's like a child and a hot stove, the kid's parents tell him not to touch it because it's hot, so he touches it anyway and then wonders why he got burned. News flash: THE FUCKING STOVE WAS HOT.

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 03:24 AM
It's our fault (our, meaning the USA) that the rest of the world hates us, bitching about it doesn't do any good. But it shows whose pin you were wearing with a little too much enthusiasm last voting season.

Think about it. In WW2 Russia and the United States were allied against the Axis forces, guess what? All Russians fucking hate our guts. Back in the 60s we helped Afghanistan defend against the Russian invasion, and holy shit look at that, the entire country of Afghanistan hates us.

We stick out nose where it doesn't belong and make enemies out of our allies because the USA has a massive ego that needs constant stoking so we are always barging into other people's countries telling them how to run things and then we all turn around and wonder why every hates us.

That's like a child and a hot stove, the kid's parents tell him not to touch it because it's hot, so he touches it anyway and then wonders why he got burned. News flash: THE FUCKING STOVE WAS HOT.

omg so true!!

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 04:00 AM
It's our fault (our, meaning the USA) that the rest of the world hates us, bitching about it doesn't do any good. But it shows whose pin you were wearing with a little too much enthusiasm last voting season.

Think about it. In WW2 Russia and the United States were allied against the Axis forces, guess what? All Russians fucking hate our guts. Back in the 60s we helped Afghanistan defend against the Russian invasion, and holy shit look at that, the entire country of Afghanistan hates us.

We stick out nose where it doesn't belong and make enemies out of our allies because the USA has a massive ego that needs constant stoking so we are always barging into other people's countries telling them how to run things and then we all turn around and wonder why every hates us.

That's like a child and a hot stove, the kid's parents tell him not to touch it because it's hot, so he touches it anyway and then wonders why he got burned. News flash: THE FUCKING STOVE WAS HOT.

Norway dont hate you guys ^^ I love America and im norwegian..im gonna move there. And its Russia, what do you think? same with Afghanistan, you know there is a war there?

anyhow, almost all you tell is past, also this doesnt tell how you can flame other president's as you think it's easy

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:08 AM
anyhow, almost all you tell is past, also this doesnt tell how you can flame other president's as you think it's easy

I'm sorry, what?

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 04:16 AM
meh...-.-

almost everything you tell about in that huge blue written post, is from the past. I don't think USA help Afghanistan now...

and there's completely no reason to flame other president's for doing a bad job when you almost dont know what being a president does, the world aint getting known by secrets, his pressure or anything

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 04:19 AM
and there's completely no reason to flame other president's for doing a bad job when you almost dont know what being a president does, the world aint getting known by secrets, his pressure or anything

I don't understand...

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 04:21 AM
srsly?...you people make huge comments on how bad they run the country, when you dunno what that involve yourself, therefor its no reason to make the comment

Versolian
07-10-2010, 04:22 AM
It's because he's black.

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:23 AM
meh...-.-

almost everything you tell about in that huge blue written post, is from the past. I don't think USA help Afghanistan now...

and there's completely no reason to flame other president's for doing a bad job when you almost dont know what being a president does, the world aint getting known by secrets, his pressure or anything

I don't know what being pregnant is like either, should I stand in awe of a woman with a thing in he womb as well? People over state being president, all politicians know how to do is fuck things up, some are just better at fucking things up than others.

By the way the USA is still over in the middle east telling people how to run their countries, Obama promised that the troops would be home while he was in office, so far all he's done is send more people's sons and daughter to die half way around the world in the some 3rd world country so they can ship the body back hop in the cargo bay of a C-17 along with a few dozen other soldier that got killed because the government doesn't know how to stop fucking with other countries.

Tan976
07-10-2010, 04:24 AM
Who's "our"? Probably 70% of this forum isn't American.

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:27 AM
Who's "our"? Probably 70% of this forum isn't American.

The grammatical and spelling skills of the users of this board would support that statement.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 04:27 AM
im a wannabe americano :)

@Syke

It's all for the greater good! Yes! The greater good

when i come in the military, i want to go to war, or continue in the military

edit: dying for their country is their own choice like Btw

Versolian
07-10-2010, 04:28 AM
^ Agreed. (Syke)

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:34 AM
im a wannabe americano :)

@Syke

It's all for the greater good! Yes! The greater good

when i come in the military, i want to go to war, or continue in the military

edit: dying for their country is their own choice like Btw

Dying is a choice? I'm sorry, but I do believe that most of them would probably like to continue breathing. But it'ts not all for the greater good, fixing the USA's own problems like a shitty economy, high unemployment rates and this health care reform everyone has been getting raging boners over lately instead of trying to fix the rest of the world, would be for the greater good.

Fixing the rest of the world isn't even working anyway because it's just like Vietnam, they don't even want out help. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, and the US government is trying immensely hard to fix something that is not broken.

Versolian
07-10-2010, 04:39 AM
The Health Care shit goes against the constitution or somethin' anyway. It won't happen.

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:41 AM
The Health Care shit goes against the constitution or somethin' anyway. It won't happen.

How's that? I wasn't aware keeping people healthy or providing them with medical care should the need arise was in violation of someone's rights.

Versolian
07-10-2010, 04:43 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/19/AR2010031901470.html

Google it?

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 04:44 AM
How's that? I wasn't aware keeping people healthy or providing them with medical care should the need arise was in violation of someone's rights.

lol bad helpful doctor, bad!

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 04:45 AM
Dying is a choice? I'm sorry, but I do believe that most of them would probably like to continue breathing. But it'ts not all for the greater good, fixing the USA's own problems like a shitty economy, high unemployment rates and this health care reform everyone has been getting raging boners over lately instead of trying to fix the rest of the world, would be for the greater good.

Fixing the rest of the world isn't even working anyway because it's just like Vietnam, they don't even want out help. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, and the US government is trying immensely hard to fix something that is not broken.

its their own choice to go there or not, and MAY sacrifice themselves, I probably would

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 04:48 AM
its their own choice to go there or not, and MAY sacrifice themselves, I probably would

You love a country you don't live in so much that you'd sacrifice your own life for it?

dfighter
07-10-2010, 04:50 AM
Dying is a choice? I'm sorry, but I do believe that most of them would probably like to continue breathing. But it'ts not all for the greater good, fixing the USA's own problems like a shitty economy, high unemployment rates and this health care reform everyone has been getting raging boners over lately instead of trying to fix the rest of the world, would be for the greater good.

Fixing the rest of the world isn't even working anyway because it's just like Vietnam, they don't even want out help. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, and the US government is trying immensely hard to fix something that is not broken.
War is good for the war (I didn't write defense on purpose, since going overseas to play the tough yankee is not reallyt defense) industry. Peace is good for the housing industry (or wtf it's called), and commerce, and finance.
Solution: Go to war, bring destruction everywhere, then "help" to rebuild. It's been like this ever since mankind started building civilizations.


How's that? I wasn't aware keeping people healthy or providing them with medical care should the need arise was in violation of someone's rights.
It is against their divine rights! Rich people have the right to be healthier because rich people have money for quality healthcare! You live in America dammit not in some socialist country!
Only people who were born rich, went to the best school, got the best paying jobs have the right to be happy and healthy! The rest have the right to die!

Syke
07-10-2010, 04:50 AM
You know someone has a massive stick up their ass if they feel the need to piss an moan about the government wanting everyone to have healthcare... I mean seriously, do these fuck tards have nothing better to do than whine about minuscule shit that actually helps people?

That is one of the many reasons I fucking hate this country, everyone in a position of power is retarded.

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 04:57 AM
War is good for the war (I didn't write defense on purpose, since going overseas to play the tough yankee is not reallyt defense) industry. Peace is good for the housing industry (or wtf it's called), and commerce, and finance.
Solution: Go to war, bring destruction everywhere, then "help" to rebuild. It's been like this ever since mankind started building civilizations.



It is against their divine rights! Rich people have the right to be healthier because rich people have money for quality healthcare! You live in America dammit not in some socialist country!
Only people who were born rich, went to the best school, got the best paying jobs have the right to be happy and healthy! The rest have the right to die!

It is these kind of mentalities, putting the rich before other people or putting greed before the welfare of others, the bricks this country was made from pretty much, is the reason I dislike this country.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:00 AM
You love a country you don't live in so much that you'd sacrifice your own life for it?

Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl

dfighter
07-10-2010, 05:01 AM
Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl
You know suicidal wackos are not needed in the army.
Get yourself treated, freak!

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 05:03 AM
Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl

That's quite the park path... You should talk to a therapist or a counselor.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:03 AM
You know suicidal wackos are not needed in the army.
Get yourself treated, freak!im not a freak xD

Syke
07-10-2010, 05:04 AM
Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl

Suicide is not something to fuck around with, that's the reason my entire family is dead save for my mom and my sister. Get yourself some help boy.

dfighter
07-10-2010, 05:05 AM
im not a freak xD
You should be locked up and filled with anti-depressants.
That is what going to happen if you visit a shrink.
However you really should do it.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:06 AM
That's quite the park path... You should talk to a therapist or a counselor.
im sure it wont happend, to much of a coward to do something-.-

You should be locked up and filled with anti-depressants.
That is what going to happen if you visit a shrink.
However you really should do it.
though this was the intellectual forum? so go away plz

Versolian
07-10-2010, 05:06 AM
If you're "not a freak", you're a fucking idiot for not thinking you are one when you're going to attempt to join the army and go on a suicidal rampage?

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:07 AM
If you're "not a freak", you're a fucking idiot for not thinking you are one when you're going to attempt to join the army and go on a suicidal rampage?

Since im prolly to coward to suicide, i would go to war and prolly be sniped or bombed ? :) nah but dont worry, im just 14 , prolly dead or fixed before going in the military

dfighter
07-10-2010, 05:07 AM
If you're "not a freak", you're a fucking idiot for not thinking you are one when you're going to attempt to join the army and go on a suicidal rampage?
Possibly taking his brothers and sisters in arms with him. Just what they need!

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:09 AM
got a brother, but he's older than me so vey unlikely.

Versolian
07-10-2010, 05:12 AM
Since im prolly to coward to suicide, i would go to war and prolly be sniped or bombed ? :) nah but dont worry, im just 14 , prolly dead or fixed before going in the military

I find it very troubling, you think it's funny.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:13 AM
you find it troubling to have problems in your life?

Syke
07-10-2010, 05:14 AM
Contrary to popular belief, the US army does not enjoy killing things for no reason, or killing each other.

Begeebuz
07-10-2010, 05:15 AM
Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl

You little snot nosed brat. Youre a piece of shit... Wanting to serve alongside the people that actually respect what they are doing and fighting for, all whilst some little creep is thinking "Hey! I'll join the army for fuck sakes, its not like I love living anyway..." war isnt about death you retard. I'd say "go kill yourself" but you allready want to, so I'll leave you with GTFO OF MAI INTERNETZ KAY.... -.-

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 05:16 AM
you find it troubling to have problems in your life?

No, he thinks it is troubling to take suicide so lightly.

Versolian
07-10-2010, 05:17 AM
What matt said.

You kids need to grow up and get a reality check. You'll probably shit your pants twice before even thinking about killing yourself.

Fucking punk pussy's.

Begeebuz
07-10-2010, 05:18 AM
What matt said.

You kids need to grow up and get a reality check. You'll probably shit your pants twice before even thinking about killing yourself.

Fucking punk pussy's.

I clapped to that.^^ Wise words.

Syke
07-10-2010, 05:20 AM
What matt said.

You kids need to grow up and get a reality check. You'll probably shit your pants twice before even thinking about killing yourself.

Fucking punk pussy's.

This post speaks truths.

Try starring down the barrel of a loaded gun and let me know how you feel then, trust me you think you have the stones to do it but when you are looking at a life round in the chamber with the safety off, you realize shit just got real.

kevinjoha
07-10-2010, 05:27 AM
i shot a bird with a shotgun once, then it was real shit :( but it was far away so it just went poof.

But I ain't the only one who have though of suicide? No

I know many people who though of it, but now this is way to personal for me, I knew i shouldnt have said that i though of suicide, so many hearthless idiots here that only flame and call me a freak for not having such a great life as other people

Versolian
07-10-2010, 05:35 AM
That doesn't mean you should take your own life. Think about it.

Get help.

deathwatch
07-10-2010, 05:44 AM
Contrary to popular belief, the US army does not enjoy killing things for no reason, or killing each other.


Nope they leave that bidness to us Jarheads roflmao :P

Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl


Lol make sure to tell that to your rifle team.., they will love that ideology.., that's just the kind of "gung ho" mentality they need..., I would feel super comfortable with you watching my six when the shit hit the fan :rolleyes: <---sarcasm..., indeed that would be a quick section 8 if someone didn't frag you first for the betterment of the conflict :P

NOTE: for any of the comrades that have been to combat.., they will tell you..., nope you DON'T want to go to war..., war is hell incarnate and brings out the worst in human beings and cannon fodder with your mentality of "I wanna go to war" are usually the first to buy the farm and or come crying to their c/o that"they don't belong here" and or shoot themselves in the foot so they can get a meal ticket home :P

Begeebuz
07-10-2010, 06:03 AM
To have thoughts of it proves youre an attention whore. Maybe abused as a child. If you have depression... Different story, you think about it in the back of youre head. Its a confusing thing... Not like "omfglol I gotta gun *boom" you skip back and forwards, if youre unlucky to be back at the wrong time, youre gone. But to publicly say "I wanna fuck myself over" proves you... are infact!! An attention seeking whore.

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 06:51 AM
Suicide is no laughing matter, defintely go talk to a therapist. If the therapist thinks you are a real threat to yourself or someone else they may suggest you spend time in a hospital till things get better. If they think it is all just talk or if you are not at the stage in which you act on your thoughts, they will likely prescribe medications that will help you deal with life. There is nothing wrong with taking medication or for seeking help, they are good signs that you are trying to get your life back in order. No one will think less of you and if they do then they are just immature and you shouldn't care what they think or have to say. Suicide is no joke, think of all the people that would miss you if you were to go away and how they would feel. Talk to your parents and have them arrange a meeting with a licensed therapist as soon as possible or arrange the session yourself, which ever you prefer or is allowed wherever you live, I think the rules are different in different places about therapy and stuff like that.

Versolian
07-10-2010, 03:21 PM
Or they'll just throw him in a looney bin where he gets nice, soft rubber rooms where he can constantly hug himself.

Syke
07-10-2010, 03:34 PM
Nope they leave that bidness to us Jarheads roflmao :P

Marines > any other branch of the US armed forces.

Or they'll just throw him in a looney bin where he gets nice, soft rubber rooms where he can constantly hug himself.

I lol'd.

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 07:12 PM
Or they'll just throw him in a looney bin where he gets nice, soft rubber rooms where he can constantly hug himself.

I heard they don't use rubber rooms or straight jackets as often or frequently as people might think. And at most, they would likely send him to the psychiatric ward of a hospital or an actual psychiatric hospital where he would be monitored and watched. They would only use restraints if he proves to be a serious threat to himself or to others around him.

Tyle
07-10-2010, 07:23 PM
he sucks, well.. he doesnt lead the country.
There are other people out there that are leading the country and telling HIM what to do and not what to do.

mattatheos
07-10-2010, 07:42 PM
he sucks, well.. he doesnt lead the country.
There are other people out there that are leading the country and telling HIM what to do and not what to do.

That's true.

expo
07-11-2010, 01:27 AM
All president suck, the current one is no exception, some just suck harder than others. *cough* Bush *cough*

At least Bush was attempting to fix the nation. You think a war is expensive? Try having a different war, expand the government, and then tack the money vacuum of national healthcare. Obama makes Bush look like a jew.

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 01:29 AM
At least Bush was attempting to fix the nation. You think a war is expensive? Try having a different war, expand the government, and then tack the money vacuum of national healthcare. Obama makes Bush look like a jew.

Look like a Jew in a good way or a bad way?

expo
07-11-2010, 01:30 AM
Dying is a choice? I'm sorry, but I do believe that most of them would probably like to continue breathing. But it'ts not all for the greater good, fixing the USA's own problems like a shitty economy, high unemployment rates and this health care reform everyone has been getting raging boners over lately instead of trying to fix the rest of the world, would be for the greater good.

Fixing the rest of the world isn't even working anyway because it's just like Vietnam, they don't even want out help. If it isn't broken, don't fix it, and the US government is trying immensely hard to fix something that is not broken.

The currently healthcare system wasn't broken. People just didn't want to wait because they ate too much unhealthy food.


How's that? I wasn't aware keeping people healthy or providing them with medical care should the need arise was in violation of someone's rights.

Again, it was there. Last time I checked, helping some with what they need and giving them the fast track, luxury way weren't the same.

Hey, your kid could be sick, sorry. You are going to have to wait behind these obese people that are spending your money.

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 01:43 AM
The currently healthcare system wasn't broken. People just didn't want to wait because they ate too much unhealthy food.




Again, it was there. Last time I checked, helping some with what they need and giving them the fast track, luxury way weren't the same.

Hey, your kid could be sick, sorry. You are going to have to wait behind these obese people that are spending your money.

Well isn't that why most places operate under the rules of triage? The sickest and/or most severe cases or the cases that could become severe the soonest are treated first and given top priority.

Syke
07-11-2010, 01:56 AM
The currently healthcare system wasn't broken. People just didn't want to wait because they ate too much unhealthy food.

Exactly. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. I don't get why some people can't comprehend this concept.

Again, it was there. Last time I checked, helping some with what they need and giving them the fast track, luxury way weren't the same.

Hey, your kid could be sick, sorry. You are going to have to wait behind these obese people that are spending your money.

Yeah I find it amusing how the government taxes the hell out of everyone with an income and then turns around and wastes that money on things that don't benefit the people they took the money from in the first place.

Jeez I sound like an old retiree sitting around complaining with his friends.

slade1000
07-11-2010, 02:40 AM
I would rather have a country hate us and not be a communist country than be a communist country and still hate us.

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 04:23 AM
I would rather have a country hate us and not be a communist country than be a communist country and still hate us.

Maybe I didn't pay enough attention in U.S. History, Government or Economics but why is Communism such a bad thing? I thought it was like an everybody-is-equal gig?

expo
07-11-2010, 01:33 PM
Well isn't that why most places operate under the rules of triage? The sickest and/or most severe cases or the cases that could become severe the soonest are treated first and given top priority.

And the ones without hope are just given comfort while they die. But we sure as hell don't do that.


Maybe I didn't pay enough attention in U.S. History, Government or Economics but why is Communism such a bad thing? I thought it was like an everybody-is-equal gig?

Everyone is equal, except for the government. It is basically, hey you worked 8 hours and you worked 4. You both get 25 dollars. Who the fuck is gonna work hard and be happy when they could do practically nothing and make money. Then nothing would get done and Communism would thus, fail.

Supermonkeys
07-11-2010, 02:38 PM
I love our president he is awesome!

Bos
07-11-2010, 02:40 PM
RAWR he is leading us to a facist socailst country :)

N3crostalker
07-11-2010, 02:43 PM
This is what I think!


http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/middle-finger.jpg

Begeebuz
07-11-2010, 02:44 PM
Go away.

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 07:31 PM
Go away.

This.

Syke
07-11-2010, 07:33 PM
Go away.

No, YOU!!!

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 07:36 PM
And the ones without hope are just given comfort while they die. But we sure as hell don't do that.

That is why there is stuff like Hospice and other home care based programs. Most places don't tell you that you have cancer and there is nothing that can be done without offering you all kinds of assistance for your family and yourself.


Everyone is equal, except for the government. It is basically, hey you worked 8 hours and you worked 4. You both get 25 dollars. Who the fuck is gonna work hard and be happy when they could do practically nothing and make money. Then nothing would get done and Communism would thus, fail.

Do they really pay people the same if they work only half the amount of time? I would think everyone would have to work the same amount of time in order for it to be truely equal. And Communism sounds nice, I mean what is wrong with equality? As long as everyone puts in an equal effort they will all receive equal reward. It is a long shot but if the leaders of the country weren't corrupt, although most people are, wouldn't Communism actually work?

expo
07-11-2010, 09:15 PM
That is why there is stuff like Hospice and other home care based programs. Most places don't tell you that you have cancer and there is nothing that can be done without offering you all kinds of assistance for your family and yourself.

Hospitals and home care based programs do the same to all people, waste money keeping them alive. Why do you think that the hospitals have to ask the relatives if they wanna pull the plug or not?

Do they really pay people the same if they work only half the amount of time? I would think everyone would have to work the same amount of time in order for it to be truely equal. And Communism sounds nice, I mean what is wrong with equality? As long as everyone puts in an equal effort they will all receive equal reward. It is a long shot but if the leaders of the country weren't corrupt, although most people are, wouldn't Communism actually work?

Yes, because you are all working for the same goal, everyone being equal. So basically tries to remove the getting ahead mentality that motivates people to work harder. Hence why it fails so hard. We don't live in a utopia. And humans will always want to be #1. That is why only 1 group of people have ever been successful in Communism. The Inkas. If communism worked, Russia wouldn't have fallen on it's ass and China would be ruling the world right now.

mattatheos
07-11-2010, 09:18 PM
Hospitals and home care based programs do the same to all people, waste money keeping them alive. Why do you think that the hospitals have to ask the relatives if they wanna pull the plug or not?

The misison statement of Hospice is that they improve the quality of life for the person and the family, they in no way try to prolong life or cure the patient. It is simply to make the dying person and their family comfortable. Which part of that says they are trying to keep them alive??

expo
07-11-2010, 09:45 PM
The misison statement of Hospice is that they improve the quality of life for the person and the family, they in no way try to prolong life or cure the patient. It is simply to make the dying person and their family comfortable. Which part of that says they are trying to keep them alive??

Thus wasting money. If I was gonna die quicker because of an illness or an injury, I'd ask to be put to sleep. Why? Because I don't believe it is appropriate to be spending money on myself when I am going to die soon with no benefit to my death. It is kind of blunt, but it is how I believe.

Syke
07-11-2010, 09:57 PM
Why waste money to keep yourself in a vegetative state?

expo
07-11-2010, 09:59 PM
Why waste money to keep yourself in a vegetative state?

But that isn't the Liberal way.

Syke
07-11-2010, 10:07 PM
But that isn't the Liberal way.

Liberals suffer from an incurable disease known as nonexistent brain syndrome.

expo
07-11-2010, 10:08 PM
Liberals suffer from an incurable disease known as nonexistent brain syndrome.

Thats cause they are so open-minded their brains fell out.

mattatheos
07-12-2010, 02:44 AM
Thus wasting money. If I was gonna die quicker because of an illness or an injury, I'd ask to be put to sleep. Why? Because I don't believe it is appropriate to be spending money on myself when I am going to die soon with no benefit to my death. It is kind of blunt, but it is how I believe.

I don't think they practice euthanasia anymore. And what about your family and friends? What if they want as much time with you as possible to say good-bye?

expo
07-12-2010, 03:08 AM
I don't think they practice euthanasia anymore. And what about your family and friends? What if they want as much time with you as possible to say good-bye?

You know, if I am still sane, the decision is still mine.

mattatheos
07-12-2010, 03:15 AM
You know, if I am still sane, the decision is still mine.

Alzheimers and dementia, yeah, I know what you mean =/

Inevitable
07-12-2010, 05:46 PM
Well, I .....i..wanna go to war ;) and its not like im losing anything, already thinking of suicide irl

When you need a pick-me-up, remember that you were one in a million. You killed your own brothers and sisters to be born. You're strong. *thumbs up* Hehe...

Atarathi
07-12-2010, 06:06 PM
Norway dont hate you guys ^^ I love America and im norwegian..im gonna move there. And its Russia, what do you think? same with Afghanistan, you know there is a war there?

anyhow, almost all you tell is past, also this doesnt tell how you can flame other president's as you think it's easy

It's strange how rich Norwegians are when it comes to money. But more surprisingly how poor they are when it comes to language.

Spend some of your vast fortune on the development of language, instead of wasting it on luxuries. Especially if you want to participate in the forums.

Syke
07-12-2010, 06:15 PM
It's strange how rich Norwegians are when it comes to money. But more surprisingly how poor they are when it comes to language.

Spend some of your vast fortune on the development of language, instead of wasting it on luxuries. Especially if you want to participate in the forums.

Well said.

achieq
07-12-2010, 06:18 PM
He wouldn't be impeached directly because of the nationwide healthcare. It's more so the way he's handling things. A lot of people are angry because he fired the military officer in charge of the operations in the Middle East, because the guy gave his honest opinion on Obama and Obama didn't like it.

The president needs to step up to the plate and get shit done. And not the shit he wants done, but the shit america wants done.

About that officer. I've heared that. He said his opinion about Obama. But he dindt get fired. He quitted. So, Get your facts right? It was on global news.

Syke
07-12-2010, 06:31 PM
All presidents suck.

expo
07-12-2010, 06:34 PM
Alzheimers and dementia, yeah, I know what you mean =/

You really are that dense.

Syke
07-12-2010, 06:55 PM
Solution for doctors that abide by the anti-Kevorkian laws and uphold their Hippocratic oath: gun.

mattatheos
07-12-2010, 09:09 PM
You really are that dense.

Wtf is with you? You said if you were still on sound-mind when it was your time to go then the choice would be yours. When you're old, Alzheimer's and dementia are common. All I was doing was agreeing with you, what the fuck is your problem?

Wolfly
07-12-2010, 10:44 PM
Your post could have been interpreted as sarcasm

Syke
07-13-2010, 12:32 AM
That's what she said.

Wolfly
07-13-2010, 01:05 AM
That's what she said.

That didn't really...no, not this time.. ;)

Syke
07-13-2010, 01:12 AM
Also what she said.

expo
07-13-2010, 12:42 PM
Wtf is with you? You said if you were still on sound-mind when it was your time to go then the choice would be yours. When you're old, Alzheimer's and dementia are common. All I was doing was agreeing with you, what the fuck is your problem?

Seriously, are you paying attention? I said anything. You don't have to be old, get Alzheimer's or dementia to lose your mind.

mattatheos
07-13-2010, 07:48 PM
Seriously, are you paying attention? I said anything. You don't have to be old, get Alzheimer's or dementia to lose your mind.

And I thought when you used the word sane that you meant Alzheimer's and dementia, wow you try to be nice to some people and they bite your fucking head off, chill out guy.

expo
07-13-2010, 08:37 PM
And I thought when you used the word sane that you meant Alzheimer's and dementia, wow you try to be nice to some people and they bite your fucking head off, chill out guy.

If I bit your head off, how would you still be here?

mattatheos
07-13-2010, 08:40 PM
If I bit your head off, how would you still be here?

I'll just clear this up for you, I didn't mean literally biting my head off. To bite someone's head off is to blow up at them. Oh darn I did it again, I don't mean blow up literally it just means to freak out.

expo
07-13-2010, 08:56 PM
I'll just clear this up for you, I didn't mean literally biting my head off. To bite someone's head off is to blow up at them. Oh darn I did it again, I don't mean blow up literally it just means to freak out.

I should have added the tags around what I said.

Versolian
07-13-2010, 11:21 PM
Lets all agree that our president is failing and end this topic. /sagenod.

ender95
07-13-2010, 11:54 PM
I should have added the tags around what I said.

jerk... I don't think they are mentally retarded. I now under stand why your title is "making kids mad"

mattatheos
07-14-2010, 02:25 AM
jerk... I don't think they are mentally retarded. I now under stand why your title is "making kids mad"

He's just an asshole. He claims that he doesn't take any of this personally but everything he says to me has an insult in it.

expo
07-14-2010, 03:55 AM
He's just an asshole. He claims that he doesn't take any of this personally but everything he says to me has an insult in it.

How can I insult you when you are doing all the work?

Versolian
07-14-2010, 03:58 AM
It's just his job as a troll. The trolls play a big part in the AC-Web community, they make all of the idiots and kids leave.

expo
07-14-2010, 04:04 AM
It's just his job as a troll. The trolls play a big part in the AC-Web community, they make all of the idiots and kids leave.

Who, me or matt?

Crash45
07-14-2010, 04:52 AM
I believe Obama just came in at a bad time, and that the reason for the way the economy is in the way it is at the moment is because Bush/The Government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3JSEqNtlg&feature=PlayList&p=07A69AE993E1E55C&playnext_from=PL&index=6&playnext=1 Listen to the Lyrics, but yeah we should get Clinton back in office, all the man did was get a BJ, but during that time you all have to face the facts the US economy was doing really good.

mattatheos
07-14-2010, 04:59 AM
I believe Obama just came in at a bad time, and that the reason for the way the economy is in the way it is at the moment is because Bush/The Government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3JSEqNtlg&feature=PlayList&p=07A69AE993E1E55C&playnext_from=PL&index=6&playnext=1 Listen to the Lyrics, but yeah we should get Clinton back in office, all the man did was get a BJ, but during that time you all have to face the facts the US economy was doing really good.

Yeah, Bush sucked ass. He was in for too long, he shouldn't have been in office at all. Clinton was awesome, we were like at a peak with him in office. Everyone seemed to like us back then, but after Bush came the world decided to hate the U.S. Bush defintely messed everything up and now Obama has to pick up all the pieces. That's not to say he is a great president or a bad one. But seriously, we need Bill back!

Ooberstan
07-16-2010, 02:38 PM
You know that famous song lyric? Something like this, "And I'm proud to be an American, where atleast I know I'm free"

I. Call. Bullshit.

nexusoblivion
07-16-2010, 02:47 PM
I agree with crash completely and have my self said a dozen times over the worst bill ever did was get a bj

cyberbritt
07-16-2010, 03:35 PM
mattatheos that may be true but everybody doesent hate you, as my nation doesent

expo
07-16-2010, 04:35 PM
Yeah, Bush sucked ass. He was in for too long, he shouldn't have been in office at all. Clinton was awesome, we were like at a peak with him in office. Everyone seemed to like us back then, but after Bush came the world decided to hate the U.S. Bush defintely messed everything up and now Obama has to pick up all the pieces. That's not to say he is a great president or a bad one. But seriously, we need Bill back!

You are blaming 1 man for 3 branches of government. That is completely 1 sided hate on Bush for what was partially out of his control.

Furthermore, Obama hasn't done much beyond make national healthcare.

Syke
07-16-2010, 05:02 PM
You are blaming 1 man for 3 branches of government. That is completely 1 sided hate on Bush for what was partially out of his control.

Furthermore, Obama hasn't done much beyond make national healthcare.

Still better than a failure to protect the country from terrorists, start 2 pointless wars and ruin the economy and leave it for the next guy to clean up, which he is also doing nothing about. Even is Obama is fixing something that isn't broken, it's better than breaking something that isn't broken.

expo
07-16-2010, 10:39 PM
Still better than a failure to protect the country from terrorists, start 2 pointless wars and ruin the economy and leave it for the next guy to clean up, which he is also doing nothing about. Even is Obama is fixing something that isn't broken, it's better than breaking something that isn't broken.

True. But you are forgetting he shoved national healthcare that will increase debt way beyond what it is at. He has done almost nothing to assist in the oil spill cleanup. And he is extending and increasing a war in the Middle East.

We are broke, and Obama is helping make it worse.

mattatheos
07-16-2010, 10:56 PM
mattatheos that may be true but everybody doesent hate you, as my nation doesent

Most of the world has a problem with us, your country may be the exception.

True. But you are forgetting he shoved national healthcare that will increase debt way beyond what it is at. He has done almost nothing to assist in the oil spill cleanup. And he is extending and increasing a war in the Middle East.

We are broke, and Obama is helping make it worse.

How will national healthcare increase debt?

Still better than a failure to protect the country from terrorists, start 2 pointless wars and ruin the economy and leave it for the next guy to clean up, which he is also doing nothing about. Even is Obama is fixing something that isn't broken, it's better than breaking something that isn't broken.

qft.

nexusoblivion
07-16-2010, 11:09 PM
national healthcare is not going to increase national debt, it may actually decrease it the problem is that its going to drive alot of people deeper into debt because any one that doesnt get a health care plan will have to pay an additional tax...... its a shitty plan at best, its a violation of our freedom of choice and a government feed into yet another industry that outsources jobs.... what we need is some sort of law stating that companies MUST hire a certain amount of people in this country if they want to do buisness here. its the same damned thing as hiring illegal immagrants imo

mattatheos
07-16-2010, 11:20 PM
national healthcare is not going to increase national debt, it may actually decrease it the problem is that its going to drive alot of people deeper into debt because any one that doesnt get a health care plan will have to pay an additional tax...... its a shitty plan at best, its a violation of our freedom of choice and a government feed into yet another industry that outsources jobs.... what we need is some sort of law stating that companies MUST hire a certain amount of people in this country if they want to do buisness here. its the same damned thing as hiring illegal immagrants imo

Woah, wait, they are forcing people to get health insurance? I thought they would just insure everyone, like I don't know

expo
07-17-2010, 03:47 AM
How will national healthcare increase debt?

When people can't afford it, who do you think is gonna foot the bill?

national healthcare is not going to increase national debt, it may actually decrease it the problem is that its going to drive alot of people deeper into debt because any one that doesnt get a health care plan will have to pay an additional tax...... its a shitty plan at best, its a violation of our freedom of choice and a government feed into yet another industry that outsources jobs.... what we need is some sort of law stating that companies MUST hire a certain amount of people in this country if they want to do buisness here. its the same damned thing as hiring illegal immagrants imo

Someone has to pay for it. And I bet you didn't know the fine for businesses giving out healthcare is cheaper than actually giving the employees healthcare.

cyberbritt
07-17-2010, 04:58 AM
yes your right in that expo, but you will also increase the work abillity and health generaly on people. therefor the income will also increase as workers.

mattatheos
07-17-2010, 05:07 AM
That's true. It's a nice change to see the U.S. fixing our own problems for a change, lately it seems like we have been too busy with other peoples issues that we let our own country go to shit.

Drikish
07-17-2010, 05:21 AM
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/obama-montage.jpg

mattatheos
07-17-2010, 05:22 AM
Interesting piece of art...

expo
07-17-2010, 05:42 AM
yes your right in that expo, but you will also increase the work abillity and health generaly on people. therefor the income will also increase as workers.

Actually, the people that get it for free will not put back into the system. And they will waste the funding on unnecessary stuff further driving us into debt.

http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/obama-montage.jpg

The sad truth.

xxomicronxx
07-17-2010, 06:03 AM
Funny thing about America is, it isn't their president. It's the stupid fucking republicans and racist who won't admit their wrong. They are even saying they veto things just because and they don't even read half the shit Barrack Obama is putting out. Obama did a VERY good job for getting on BP's case and cracking down on the health care reform. Abortion isn't even a bad fucking thing. If a girl wants to have an abortion, let her have one. If someone doesn't have the money to take care of a child then whats the point of ruining that childs life? The Child doesn't even have their brain's developed at the time their getting the abortion, therefore the child is not alive. I'm not saying obama is in the top 5 President's of all time. But in the 21st century and compared to stupid ass Bush, he's all we need right now. If you want a President that doesn't crack down on problems, try, isn't environmentally friendly, and wants to stay in war, than get the fuck out of America. We're apart of the environment too dumb-asses. You act like its Man vs Nature, when really we are apart of Nature. Obama is doing fine, its a bunch of fucktards that don't want to see a black man succeed. Sadly, people still report racism directly and indirectly. It's quite obvious that they wanted John McCain, Even though John had a 1/3rd chance of not even living through his fucking term and didn't even know how to work a damn computer. Old fucks should stop running, Obama was the best choice. Live with it.

Foxx
07-17-2010, 06:41 AM
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/obama-montage.jpg

lol

nexusoblivion
07-17-2010, 02:01 PM
Funny thing about America is, it isn't their president. It's the stupid fucking republicans and racist who won't admit their wrong. They are even saying they veto things just because and they don't even read half the shit Barrack Obama is putting out. Obama did a VERY good job for getting on BP's case and cracking down on the health care reform. Abortion isn't even a bad fucking thing. If a girl wants to have an abortion, let her have one. If someone doesn't have the money to take care of a child then whats the point of ruining that child's life? The Child doesn't even have their brain's developed at the time their getting the abortion, therefore the child is not alive. I'm not saying obama is in the top 5 President's of all time. But in the 21st century and compared to stupid ass Bush, he's all we need right now. If you want a President that doesn't crack down on problems, try, isn't environmentally friendly, and wants to stay in war, than get the fuck out of America. We're apart of the environment too dumb-asses. You act like its Man vs Nature, when really we are apart of Nature. Obama is doing fine, its a bunch of fucktards that don't want to see a black man succeed. Sadly, people still report racism directly and indirectly. It's quite obvious that they wanted John McCain, Even though John had a 1/3rd chance of not even living through his fucking term and didn't even know how to work a damn computer. Old fucks should stop running, Obama was the best choice. Live with it.

the best choice doesn't mean a good choice, if I tell you you are going to die but you have the choice of by gun or by knife NEITHER is a good choice because your still going to die. as for your comment "get the fuck out of America" BS, can it :^/ country was founded on free speech, if you don't like it then you can get the fuck out instead of trying to impune peoples right to voice their opinion.

as for being racist because we don't like a black man... are you completely off your rocker? well I may not like obama but I HATE bush so I guess that means I hate all white people including my self... not wait that cant be right cause I'm an arrogant bastard and I love me :^/ .......

the abortion thing.... I have no opinion, I'm a guy and will never be in a situation sufficiently like getting an abortion to have an informed opinion about it and I highly doubt you have been in one either.

the only legit thing you stated in your entire wall of text was that obama did crack down on bp which he did to an extent that had british poloticians asking him to back the hell off.

maybe you should flame a little less and think a little more...

and expo my objection wasn't so much to the fine it self as to the fact that not choosing health care = a fine which impunes our freedom of choice

expo
07-17-2010, 05:35 PM
Funny thing about America is, it isn't their president. It's the stupid fucking republicans and racist who won't admit their wrong. They are even saying they veto things just because and they don't even read half the shit Barrack Obama is putting out. Obama did a VERY good job for getting on BP's case and cracking down on the health care reform. Abortion isn't even a bad fucking thing. If a girl wants to have an abortion, let her have one. If someone doesn't have the money to take care of a child then whats the point of ruining that childs life? The Child doesn't even have their brain's developed at the time their getting the abortion, therefore the child is not alive. I'm not saying obama is in the top 5 President's of all time. But in the 21st century and compared to stupid ass Bush, he's all we need right now. If you want a President that doesn't crack down on problems, try, isn't environmentally friendly, and wants to stay in war, than get the fuck out of America. We're apart of the environment too dumb-asses. You act like its Man vs Nature, when really we are apart of Nature. Obama is doing fine, its a bunch of fucktards that don't want to see a black man succeed. Sadly, people still report racism directly and indirectly. It's quite obvious that they wanted John McCain, Even though John had a 1/3rd chance of not even living through his fucking term and didn't even know how to work a damn computer. Old fucks should stop running, Obama was the best choice. Live with it.

Ultra-Liberal alert.

cyberbritt
07-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Actually, the people that get it for free will not put back into the system. And they will waste the funding on unnecessary stuff further driving us into debt.

okei, then i do wonder why you are ranked that low in health from the other European nations

expo
07-17-2010, 09:42 PM
okei, then i do wonder why you are ranked that low in health from the other European nations

America is not a European national. I'd like to see where the source is for ranking. Please, do link.

cyberbritt
07-17-2010, 09:45 PM
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

here ;P and i did never say America is a European national just that its far from the best thats mostly in Europe

The link seems pretty trustworthy

Drikish
07-17-2010, 09:50 PM
Funny thing about America is, it isn't their president. It's the stupid fucking republicans and racist who won't admit their wrong. They are even saying they veto things just because and they don't even read half the shit Barrack Obama is putting out. Obama did a VERY good job for getting on BP's case and cracking down on the health care reform. Abortion isn't even a bad fucking thing. If a girl wants to have an abortion, let her have one. If someone doesn't have the money to take care of a child then whats the point of ruining that childs life? The Child doesn't even have their brain's developed at the time their getting the abortion, therefore the child is not alive. I'm not saying obama is in the top 5 President's of all time. But in the 21st century and compared to stupid ass Bush, he's all we need right now. If you want a President that doesn't crack down on problems, try, isn't environmentally friendly, and wants to stay in war, than get the fuck out of America. We're apart of the environment too dumb-asses. You act like its Man vs Nature, when really we are apart of Nature. Obama is doing fine, its a bunch of fucktards that don't want to see a black man succeed. Sadly, people still report racism directly and indirectly. It's quite obvious that they wanted John McCain, Even though John had a 1/3rd chance of not even living through his fucking term and didn't even know how to work a damn computer. Old fucks should stop running, Obama was the best choice. Live with it.


LMFAO.

Man, I haven't laughed that hard for awhile.
You're funny. I like you :)

Edit:

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

here ;P and i did never say America is a European national just that its far from the best thats mostly in Europe

The link seems pretty trustworthy

Lawl. Yeah, it looks real trustworthy. Give me 20 minutes and I'll make a site just like that and shuffle the rankings a bit. That'll be trustworthy too right?

cyberbritt
07-17-2010, 09:53 PM
well its on the movie Sicko with the same results so how wont it?

expo
07-17-2010, 09:54 PM
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

here ;P and i did never say America is a European national just that its far from the best thats mostly in Europe

The link seems pretty trustworthy

Cool, ranking from the year 2000. Sounds legit. 10 years and no difference?

cyberbritt
07-17-2010, 09:58 PM
soz didnt see that, well heres the hdi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdi

Syke
07-17-2010, 10:13 PM
soz didnt see that, well heres the hdi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdi

Looks like North/Central America is right up there with the UK from what I can tell.

mattatheos
07-18-2010, 01:38 AM
Funny thing about America is, it isn't their president. It's the stupid fucking republicans and racist who won't admit their wrong. They are even saying they veto things just because and they don't even read half the shit Barrack Obama is putting out. Obama did a VERY good job for getting on BP's case and cracking down on the health care reform. Abortion isn't even a bad fucking thing. If a girl wants to have an abortion, let her have one. If someone doesn't have the money to take care of a child then whats the point of ruining that childs life? The Child doesn't even have their brain's developed at the time their getting the abortion, therefore the child is not alive. I'm not saying obama is in the top 5 President's of all time. But in the 21st century and compared to stupid ass Bush, he's all we need right now. If you want a President that doesn't crack down on problems, try, isn't environmentally friendly, and wants to stay in war, than get the fuck out of America. We're apart of the environment too dumb-asses. You act like its Man vs Nature, when really we are apart of Nature. Obama is doing fine, its a bunch of fucktards that don't want to see a black man succeed. Sadly, people still report racism directly and indirectly. It's quite obvious that they wanted John McCain, Even though John had a 1/3rd chance of not even living through his fucking term and didn't even know how to work a damn computer. Old fucks should stop running, Obama was the best choice. Live with it.

So are you saying that it is bad to think that Obama won because of the race card? That is my personal belief.

expo
07-18-2010, 04:00 AM
So are you saying that it is bad to think that Obama won because of the race card? That is my personal belief.

He is more saying those damn Republicans that have absolutely no power in any part of government (yes, the Democrats do control all 3 branches) are blocking the Democrats from making the Us better. OH NOEZ, BUSH DID THIS!

Except, Clinton is the reason why the housing market when to shit. Look up the history of the Neighborhood Act originally made by Carter then really fucked up by Clinton.

soz didnt see that, well heres the hdi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdi

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7827/rates.jpg

US > UK

The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic used to rank countries by level of "human development" and separate developed (high development), developing (middle development), and underdeveloped (low development) countries. The statistic is composed from data on Life Expectancy, Education and per-capita GDP (as an indicator of Standard of living) collected at the national level using the formula given in the Methodology section below.

I wanted to also point out that it is based on life expectancy, education, and per-capita GDP. So basically, that isn't accurate on what country has better healthcare.

cyberbritt
07-18-2010, 04:04 AM
i know, but couldnt find a newer list for healthcare, told it was HDI atleast and yes i do see Us beats Uk ;P

expo
07-18-2010, 04:10 AM
i know, but couldnt find a newer list for healthcare, told it was HDI atleast and yes i do see Us beats Uk ;P

But HDI isn't necessarily exclusive to show healthcare. It uses multiple variables.

Tulip
07-18-2010, 04:43 AM
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4503/hatersgonnahatefatameri.jpg

Syke
07-18-2010, 06:51 AM
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I'm a hater, and I'm hatin'.

mattatheos
07-19-2010, 02:40 AM
So does anyone else feel that Obama won mainly if not entirely because of the race card? In my opinion, the second he said he was running for president it was as good as his. If we hadn't elected him, what kind of image would that send to the country and the rest of the world?

Syke
07-19-2010, 03:02 AM
So does anyone else feel that Obama won mainly if not entirely because of the race card? In my opinion, the second he said he was running for president it was as good as his. If we hadn't elected him, what kind of image would that send to the country and the rest of the world?

I don't know. With how racist the USA is still I think it was the lesser of two evils, McCain was an old motherfucker who would have died before his term was up and then we'd have been stuck with Palin as our president, during all the debates an speeches and shit she was blowing enough hot air to re-float the Hindenburg, if she took the White House this country would already be a massive smoldering crater in the ground with a largce cloud of radioactive fallout and Russia would be laughing whilst replenishing their stock of nuclear warheads. But before that she'd send more people's children to die in Afghanistan, run the economy into the ground even more and increase the national debt like no other.

expo
07-19-2010, 04:02 AM
I don't know. With how racist the USA is still I think it was the lesser of two evils, McCain was an old motherfucker who would have died before his term was up and then we'd have been stuck with Palin as our president, during all the debates an speeches and shit she was blowing enough hot air to re-float the Hindenburg, if she took the White House this country would already be a massive smoldering crater in the ground with a largce cloud of radioactive fallout and Russia would be laughing whilst replenishing their stock of nuclear warheads. But before that she'd send more people's children to die in Afghanistan, run the economy into the ground even more and increase the national debt like no other.

Well, instead we got Obama. He has so far, not followed much anything he said he would. Made the Middle East even more of a mess. Fucked up our economy at a faster rate than Bush ever did. And has 2 more years of shit to go through.

mattatheos
07-20-2010, 01:42 AM
What year did the recession start? Or was there like two?

expo
07-20-2010, 03:34 AM
What year did the recession start? Or was there like two?

Define recession.

Doyllis
07-20-2010, 05:02 AM
Well, instead we got Obama. He has so far, not followed much anything he said he would. Made the Middle East even more of a mess. Fucked up our economy at a faster rate than Bush ever did. And has 2 more years of shit to go through.

Obama had nothing to do with the economic downfall first of all, blame that shit on wall street; easy as that. 2nd, he actually does have a little progression going on with the middle east, the problem isn't one that can be resolved with a simple withdraw. The problem isn't increasing any faster than anyone would of expected anyways. Bush caused the problems, Obama continued them on a slower rate; he didn't stop it which can't simply be done in one term.
2 more years of Obama is still better than 2 more years of old fuck Mccain, I think the US would of been bombed cause Sarah would of taken over. Now tell me, WHO the fuck wants Sarah Palin. When she gets president, thats when the worlds cause everyone can see Russia from there house and they just fly over to drop a nuke on us, 90% of Africa's population dies out because it is no longer a continent; its a country, and on top of that we got someone with an IQ with -50 in office.
All choices were bad choices. :/

expo
07-20-2010, 05:23 AM
Obama had nothing to do with the economic downfall first of all, blame that shit on wall street; easy as that. 2nd, he actually does have a little progression going on with the middle east, the problem isn't one that can be resolved with a simple withdraw. The problem isn't increasing any faster than anyone would of expected anyways. Bush caused the problems, Obama continued them on a slower rate; he didn't stop it which can't simply be done in one term.
2 more years of Obama is still better than 2 more years of old fuck Mccain, I think the US would of been bombed cause Sarah would of taken over. Now tell me, WHO the fuck wants Sarah Palin. When she gets president, thats when the worlds cause everyone can see Russia from there house and they just fly over to drop a nuke on us, 90% of Africa's population dies out because it is no longer a continent; its a country, and on top of that we got someone with an IQ with -50 in office.
All choices were bad choices. :/

In all honesty, we changed one shitty president for another. We have been doing the same thing since before even Nixon. Bush started those wars to protect the US even if most people are too blind to see it. Most people aren't even aware that at first even Nancy Pilosi supported Bush going into Iraq. It was on CSpan.

Obama/Biden was just as bad a pick as McCain/Palin. One major reason Obama won is because everyone wanted to have a change in party. It wouldn't matter any combo the Reps put out, the Dems were guaranteed a win. And it is looking like now everyone is fed up with the Dems so there is a very high possibility the Reps will take back the legislative branch.

mattatheos
07-20-2010, 01:26 PM
Define recession.

Well by recession I guess I meant when our economy recently got incredibly shitty. All of the "tough times" everyone is talking about and such.

expo
07-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Well by recession I guess I meant when our economy recently got incredibly shitty. All of the "tough times" everyone is talking about and such.

Oh, that kind. It has been going on for a lot longer than Bush.

nexusoblivion
07-20-2010, 07:33 PM
indeed Clinton did make improvements but all the improvements Clinton made turned out to be nothing more than temporary band-aid fixes.... bush just did a fantastic job removing the remaining bandaids.... obama is making some what of an attempt to fix things.... and honestly I cant really say if its him or senate to blame but the fact of the matter is things are not being fixed right..... its all getting half assed IMO because thats the only way any thing is being allowed to get done by one party or the other... each party wants more power than they have and their each putting their own garbage before the good of the country.... honestly IMO we should just dump every government official in office and elect new people from among ordinary citizens... I mean any one that makes less that 60k a year... I don't want to see the country run by some one like that ass from lorel paris

Doyllis
07-20-2010, 07:43 PM
If you want to get rid of the government completely and replace it with new people all together, get all the old fucks out of the senate and add people who know how to use a computer. President officially has to have an IQ of four times the average American, common sense is required. Parties should be removed and need to just have the 3 best picks get up, do the shit american wants them to do. Also change the IQ in order for someone to vote x2 the average person who has a high school education. You must be 35 years of age to be the President, 25 years of age to be apart of the government.

expo
07-20-2010, 07:46 PM
indeed Clinton did make improvements but all the improvements Clinton made turned out to be nothing more than temporary band-aid fixes.... bush just did a fantastic job removing the remaining bandaids.... obama is making some what of an attempt to fix things.... and honestly I cant really say if its him or senate to blame but the fact of the matter is things are not being fixed right..... its all getting half assed IMO because thats the only way any thing is being allowed to get done by one party or the other... each party wants more power than they have and their each putting their own garbage before the good of the country.... honestly IMO we should just dump every government official in office and elect new people from among ordinary citizens... I mean any one that makes less that 60k a year... I don't want to see the country run by some one like that ass from lorel paris

Clinton made a band aide. Bush scraped them off. Obama is putting more on. Next president? HOW ABOUT A STITCH, SOME GAUSS, AND SOME ANTI-VIRAL CREAM?

nexusoblivion
07-21-2010, 02:33 AM
Clinton made a band aide. Bush scraped them off. Obama is putting more on. Next president? HOW ABOUT A STITCH, SOME GAUSS, AND SOME ANTI-VIRAL CREAM?

indeed, seems we cant get a president into office that wont do more than just band-aid situations....

I don't think an IQ restriction is the answer to our governmental issue I think our governmental issue is for the most part... those that are lobbying for cooperate and causing road blocks in our system of government... when asked about the penalty fee thats included with the health care reform if people choose not to purchase health care, obama stated very plainly, it was the only way to get the bill to pass...this means the health care industry was lobbying and the senate was influenced by it.......

if nothing else cooperations should not be allowed to lobby and I think the station of president should be replaced with a council of 12 people who's unanimous vote can veto the senate when the senate is not acting in the best interests of the American people and the decision as to whether or not the senate is acting in our best interest on the policy at hand (what ever it may be) should be put to a national vote that is not by state but where each individuals vote counts.

expo
07-21-2010, 03:39 AM
indeed, seems we cant get a president into office that wont do more than just band-aid situations....

I don't think an IQ restriction is the answer to our governmental issue I think our governmental issue is for the most part... those that are lobbying for cooperate and causing road blocks in our system of government... when asked about the penalty fee thats included with the health care reform if people choose not to purchase health care, obama stated very plainly, it was the only way to get the bill to pass...this means the health care industry was lobbying and the senate was influenced by it.......

if nothing else cooperations should not be allowed to lobby and I think the station of president should be replaced with a council of 12 people who's unanimous vote can veto the senate when the senate is not acting in the best interests of the American people and the decision as to whether or not the senate is acting in our best interest on the policy at hand (what ever it may be) should be put to a national vote that is not by state but where each individuals vote counts.

There is no foolproof system.

nexusoblivion
07-21-2010, 03:45 AM
agreed, but we sure as hell could do allot better.

expo
07-21-2010, 03:51 AM
agreed, but we sure as hell could do allot better.

It will take another few hundred years to get started on that.

nexusoblivion
07-21-2010, 04:05 AM
I don't know, the variables don't really point to any improvement in our government.... actually they seem to point to a reversion in governmental procedure.... if the things retain the current direction I think it'd be a fair guess that we would go back to a state of mind where crying wolf would be all it would take for capital punishment..... then again its also fair to say that the direction of things may also lead to a gov so weak that it wouldn't be willing let alone capable of defending the citizens.... its an interesting thought to mull around in ones skull....

mattatheos
07-21-2010, 05:23 AM
I don't know, the variables don't really point to any improvement in our government.... actually they seem to point to a reversion in governmental procedure.... if the things retain the current direction I think it'd be a fair guess that we would go back to a state of mind where crying wolf would be all it would take for capital punishment..... then again its also fair to say that the direction of things may also lead to a gov so weak that it wouldn't be willing let alone capable of defending the citizens.... its an interesting thought to mull around in ones skull....

It may not be for capital punishment, but crying wolf is all it takes to condemn a person in a lot of areas. Although that isn't exactly the governments fault it is more of peoples faults.

nexusoblivion
07-21-2010, 03:01 PM
the government is euaqlly to blame for allowing and taking part in it.... thats like watching some one kill some one else if you have the power to stop them, you become equally as guilty....

Syke
07-21-2010, 06:29 PM
the government is euaqlly to blame for allowing and taking part in it.... thats like watching some one kill some one else if you have the power to stop them, you become equally as guilty....

Accessory to murder.

mattatheos
07-21-2010, 09:47 PM
the government is euaqlly to blame for allowing and taking part in it.... thats like watching some one kill some one else if you have the power to stop them, you become equally as guilty....

Yeah, that's true, a lot of people buy right into the whole crying wolf thing. Like, as a woman, do you know how easy it would be for me to fuck your life all the way up and then some? lol it's ridiculous and I'm not saying that all women who claim abuse or rape are full of shit but a few of them are. All I would have to do is say you molested me and then you could spend the rest of your life with that horrible stigma, you'd never get laid or married and you'd have a hell of a hard time holding down a job or living arrangements. Same thing goes with being called a racist.

nexusoblivion
07-22-2010, 12:39 AM
Yeah, that's true, a lot of people buy right into the whole crying wolf thing. Like, as a woman, do you know how easy it would be for me to fuck your life all the way up and then some? lol it's ridiculous and I'm not saying that all women who claim abuse or rape are full of shit but a few of them are. All I would have to do is say you molested me and then you could spend the rest of your life with that horrible stigma, you'd never get laid or married and you'd have a hell of a hard time holding down a job or living arrangements. Same thing goes with being called a racist.

have you seen me? I'd still get laid :cool: lol.... but yea your right in alot of cases thats all it does take.... actually kinda similar to why I sometimes refer to my self as the king wolf...... the term "crying wolf" in the various witch hunts and inquisitions and me being an actual "wolf" in that prospect.... I just like the irony lol....

expo
07-22-2010, 04:12 AM
Yeah, that's true, a lot of people buy right into the whole crying wolf thing. Like, as a woman, do you know how easy it would be for me to fuck your life all the way up and then some? lol it's ridiculous and I'm not saying that all women who claim abuse or rape are full of shit but a few of them are. All I would have to do is say you molested me and then you could spend the rest of your life with that horrible stigma, you'd never get laid or married and you'd have a hell of a hard time holding down a job or living arrangements. Same thing goes with being called a racist.

It would be quite interesting to raise the question of exploiting the system and putting all the eyes back on you.

mattatheos
07-22-2010, 05:24 AM
have you seen me? I'd still get laid :cool: lol.... but yea your right in alot of cases thats all it does take.... actually kinda similar to why I sometimes refer to my self as the king wolf...... the term "crying wolf" in the various witch hunts and inquisitions and me being an actual "wolf" in that prospect.... I just like the irony lol....

Wouldn't calling yourself a wolf mean that you are a rapist? If by wolf we are talking about rape. Kinda confused lol

It would be quite interesting to raise the question of exploiting the system and putting all the eyes back on you.

I don't exactly know what you mean, could you explain it please?

expo
07-22-2010, 07:01 PM
I don't exactly know what you mean, could you explain it please?

Bringing up that you are doing this intentionally crying wolf because you are a woman and you know that there will be many people to support you regardless of the truth.

mattatheos
07-22-2010, 08:56 PM
Bringing up that you are doing this intentionally crying wolf because you are a woman and you know that there will be many people to support you regardless of the truth.

Oh, well I would still be able to get away with it :P "Oh, woe is me! In my frazzled state of being I must have just thought it was you when it was someone who looked like you!" but people would still look at you differently. Or I could say it wasn't rape it was just like molestation or lude behavior or something around those lines but I was so upset that I called it rape when I didn't mean rape, it is harder to prove and my word would be better then yours cause you would already be begged as a sex offender and I'd get away with it. Of course I would never actually do anything like this and I am in no way saying that all incidents of a woman crying wolf are fake I am just talking about the whole cry wolf matter.

expo
07-22-2010, 10:15 PM
Oh, well I would still be able to get away with it :P "Oh, woe is me! In my frazzled state of being I must have just thought it was you when it was someone who looked like you!" but people would still look at you differently. Or I could say it wasn't rape it was just like molestation or lude behavior or something around those lines but I was so upset that I called it rape when I didn't mean rape, it is harder to prove and my word would be better then yours cause you would already be begged as a sex offender and I'd get away with it. Of course I would never actually do anything like this and I am in no way saying that all incidents of a woman crying wolf are fake I am just talking about the whole cry wolf matter.

Money talks and shit walks. Hire a good attorney and it wouldn't matter.

Syke
07-23-2010, 10:40 AM
Money talks and shit walks. Hire a good attorney and it wouldn't matter.

That's why OJ Simpson walked for murder, he hired the Dream Team. Except he also went broke paying those guys.

expo
07-23-2010, 02:04 PM
That's why OJ Simpson walked for murder, he hired the Dream Team. Except he also went broke paying those guys.

Yup.

Ikizami
07-24-2010, 09:00 AM
Back on topic, about Obama.
I personally don't think he's the best, but he's not the worst we've had. He is doing a lot more good, then bad though. Although he's not doing everything perfectly for the economy, but he is doing a lot of homosexual rights, which in my opinion has so far made him one of the greatest presidents we've had so far. If my partner was hospitalized now, I can finally be in the same room as him and be with him. He's also working on repealing DOMA, which would make it a lot more easier for me to finally get married, and stop living this lie this county is. The Constitution, and following amendments are one of the largest lies this country has, and now Obama is working on helping make it true, and getting ready to help get higher Gay Rights, repealing DOMA, repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and so much more, finally making this country more sustaining to homosexuals. Finally all we need to do now is legalize gay marriage, and teach about how homosexuality is an "alternative lifestyle" that is not chosen, but is correct, normal, and should be treated as fairly as any other lifestyle in this nation. Which I'm hoping to see in the next 2 to 6 years of Obama. Yes, there are greater things to be working on, such as getting the economy working, removing our army from Afghanistan, and removing our terrorists from Iraq. But at least he's doing something productive, and not throwing out thing, after thing, which ended up more so ruining the economy, like what happened with Bush. His intentions was good, but it more-or-less, backfired on him, and sunk the economy more. He also made mistakes with going to war, yes it was to stop terrorism on America, but invading Iraq did nothing but make America the real terrorists, and we're not doing any major good in Afghanistan. I'm just thankful Obama is at least doing productive, even though its not the highest priority thing he should be doing.

expo
07-24-2010, 06:04 PM
Back on topic, about Obama.
I personally don't think he's the best, but he's not the worst we've had. He is doing a lot more good, then bad though. Although he's not doing everything perfectly for the economy, but he is doing a lot of homosexual rights, which in my opinion has so far made him one of the greatest presidents we've had so far. If my partner was hospitalized now, I can finally be in the same room as him and be with him. He's also working on repealing DOMA, which would make it a lot more easier for me to finally get married, and stop living this lie this county is. The Constitution, and following amendments are one of the largest lies this country has, and now Obama is working on helping make it true, and getting ready to help get higher Gay Rights, repealing DOMA, repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and so much more, finally making this country more sustaining to homosexuals. Finally all we need to do now is legalize gay marriage, and teach about how homosexuality is an "alternative lifestyle" that is not chosen, but is correct, normal, and should be treated as fairly as any other lifestyle in this nation. Which I'm hoping to see in the next 2 to 6 years of Obama. Yes, there are greater things to be working on, such as getting the economy working, removing our army from Afghanistan, and removing our terrorists from Iraq. But at least he's doing something productive, and not throwing out thing, after thing, which ended up more so ruining the economy, like what happened with Bush. His intentions was good, but it more-or-less, backfired on him, and sunk the economy more. He also made mistakes with going to war, yes it was to stop terrorism on America, but invading Iraq did nothing but make America the real terrorists, and we're not doing any major good in Afghanistan. I'm just thankful Obama is at least doing productive, even though its not the highest priority thing he should be doing.

I lol'd.

Syke
07-24-2010, 06:09 PM
Massive pink wall o' text is massive.

nexusoblivion
07-26-2010, 02:04 AM
Wouldn't calling yourself a wolf mean that you are a rapist? If by wolf we are talking about rape. Kinda confused lol

no lol... I was talking about witches back in trial days.....

sorry I had to highlight the pink to fkn read it..... yeah.... I'm not against gay marriage... I think the entire ban on it is a load of garbage and people should be free to do what they choose to do especially in a country that claims priority #1 is freedom...... but..... worrying about people love lives is hardly productive when you actually consider every thing else on the table.... I'm sorry but gay relationships are trivial garbage at the moment given every thing else that needs attention, its a waste of time that could be better spent getting our troops home or working on economic solutions, the last thing obama should be worried about is whether or not you can get laid..... and yes I'm over simplifying it :^/ but that doesn't change the bottom line...

runemaster
07-27-2010, 03:58 PM
Alot of you fucking kids have no idea what the hell you are talking about, Nor have any experience doing so. Yet for some reason you think your opinion actually matters, well guess what? It doesn't, its irelevent because no matter how many kids argue "Obama's a bad man; hes a terrorist" and "Obama is god" none of you will change your minds, and none of you will impact anything in real life with this situation, and none of this matters.

Syke
07-27-2010, 04:12 PM
Alot of you fucking kids have no idea what the hell you are talking about, Nor have any experience doing so. Yet for some reason you think your opinion actually matters, well guess what? It doesn't, its irelevent because no matter how many kids argue "Obama's a bad man; hes a terrorist" and "Obama is god" none of you will change your minds, and none of you will impact anything in real life with this situation, and none of this matters.

Obviously Obama supporters' opinions do matter. Or we'd be stuck with old white douche and the cunt he ran with.

Cry more.

And FYI, people take you less seriously and disregard your posts when there is an Intellectual discussion going on and you being to swear every other syllable.

cyberbritt
07-27-2010, 07:13 PM
Runemaster i know you like Dictatorshipp but go with it somewhere else

expo
07-27-2010, 07:52 PM
Obviously Obama supporters' opinions do matter. Or we'd be stuck with old white douche and the cunt he ran with.

Cry more.

And FYI, people take you less seriously and disregard your posts when there is an Intellectual discussion going on and you being to swear every other syllable.

And yet their support changed, and now we are stuck with an inexperienced moron in charge with a party of complete dunderfucks.

♥ Lady Gaga ♥
07-27-2010, 08:10 PM
Obama = Egotistical, lying sack of shit.

Kudos to him for TRYING, but TRYING never solved anything.
He needs to grow a pair and do the things than need to be done.

nexusoblivion
07-27-2010, 09:15 PM
Alot of you fucking kids have no idea what the hell you are talking about, Nor have any experience doing so. Yet for some reason you think your opinion actually matters, well guess what? It doesn't, its irelevent because no matter how many kids argue "Obama's a bad man; hes a terrorist" and "Obama is god" none of you will change your minds, and none of you will impact anything in real life with this situation, and none of this matters.

thanks for assuming we're all 13 and thanks for derailing an otherwise intelligent conversation into some profane holier than thou shit fit....please use your spell checker next time you feel the need to portray your self as better than every one else ffs...

OK sorry but apparently the opinions do matter. why? because some one started a conversation seeking informed opinion, you don't like it, don't post. you don't like free speech then don't speak :^/....

obama may very well be a well intentioned and good man, but good intentions mean jack shit when you are responsible for an entire country and if none of this matters why the hell are you posting?

Drikish
07-27-2010, 10:01 PM
Alot of you fucking kids have no idea what the hell you are talking about, Nor have any experience doing so. Yet for some reason you think your opinion actually matters, well guess what? It doesn't, its irelevent because no matter how many kids argue "Obama's a bad man; hes a terrorist" and "Obama is god" none of you will change your minds, and none of you will impact anything in real life with this situation, and none of this matters.


You're a dumbass.
The point of this thread isn't to "impact anything in real life", it's to express our opinions.
This is an intelligent debate, yet people like you come in here and start throwing your shit around hoping we'll throw some back.
If you don't have a valid view having to do with the topic of discussion, then just stop talking. You'll only embarrass yourself more than you already have.

Syke
07-27-2010, 10:25 PM
You're a dumbass.
The point of this thread isn't to "impact anything in real life", it's to express our opinions.
This is an intelligent debate, yet people like you come in here and start throwing your shit around hoping we'll throw some back.
If you don't have a valid view having to do with the topic of discussion, then just stop talking. You'll only embarrass yourself more than you already have.

The funny thing about people like that though. They either don't realize or don't care how much they make a fool of themselves. Although that can be good for some lulz.

nexusoblivion
07-27-2010, 10:36 PM
indeed

Sunrise
10-07-2010, 08:01 PM
It's funny because he's black :3

Syke
10-08-2010, 06:40 AM
That is racist.

jesper1
10-13-2010, 10:30 PM
This therad have become pretty funny, I say what do you know you ever been the president? I havent been that and i will never be, Hes probally under alot presure it wasent the easiest to come in under the economy problems we had and some still have, And make evrything good!

Please flame me so i you get more posts and get happy

expo
10-13-2010, 10:38 PM
Obama has increased the debt, created a bigger financial burden with bailouts and an extremely expensive healthcare system.

jesper1
10-13-2010, 10:42 PM
Obama has increased the debt, created a bigger financial burden with bailouts and an extremely expensive healthcare system.

You americans and your taxes! Sweden got that extremely expensive healthcare system. It have its + and - Atleast all get healthcare!

Think if you dident have a insurance and get sick and get a bill on 5 Thousand $
If you had that extremly expensive healthcare you dont need to pay that and all get the healthcare they need!

expo
10-13-2010, 10:50 PM
You americans and your taxes! Sweden got that extremely expensive healthcare system. It have its + and - Atleast all get healthcare!

Think if you dident have a insurance and get sick and get a bill on 5 Thousand $
If you had that extremly expensive healthcare you dont need to pay that and all get the healthcare they need!

The US does have healthcare. And there are plenty of free places to get it. If I didn't have insurance, I could still get medical attention. It is there if you are willing to look. This is what many Americans and every foreigner doesn't understand.

jesper1
10-13-2010, 10:56 PM
Expo i understand you but, Why you think no one knows about it? Beacuse its no advistning for it nothing! And the most americans have the insurance and the insurance company make to much on this i think!

expo
10-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Expo i understand you but, Why you think no one knows about it? Beacuse its no advistning for it nothing! And the most americans have the insurance and the insurance company make to much on this i think!

They don't waste money advertising when they do it for free. Why would they? The insurance company is there to make profit. It is just like any other business. But now you see it as wrong. That is a personal problem. Why do you want to switch from a respectable, intelligent, and wise insurance company to Uncle Sam who can't even properly deal with all the other shit he has?

jesper1
10-13-2010, 11:05 PM
They don't waste money advertising when they do it for free. Why would they? The insurance company is there to make profit. It is just like any other business. But now you see it as wrong. That is a personal problem. Why do you want to switch from a respectable, intelligent, and wise insurance company to Uncle Sam who can't even properly deal with all the other shit he has?

So wait you want the insurance companies to make alot money on the people?
And my personal problem is that people suffer beacuse Americans are scared for a tax raise!

And how can you compare a person and a company? maybe Uncle Sam is a great person but hes just having some trouble beacuse he gotta try to find the cheapest insurance beacuse hes poor and wants hes family the best!

expo
10-13-2010, 11:12 PM
So wait you want the insurance companies to make alot money on the people?
And my personal problem is that people suffer beacuse Americans are scared for a tax raise!

And how can you compare a person and a company? maybe Uncle Sam is a great person but hes just having some trouble beacuse he gotta try to find the cheapest insurance beacuse hes poor and wants hes family the best!

They are a for-profit company, why the hell not? They offer a service. You chose to pay or not receive it. They have to deal with the medical companies. In order for the government to pay for stuff, taxes have to go up, or programs have to be cut. Democrats love big government, so you get to pay more taxes.

You do know Uncle Sam refers to the US gov, not a person, right?

jesper1
10-13-2010, 11:16 PM
Yepp i know that but you dident define it and all dont know it so i used it!

expo
10-14-2010, 12:01 AM
Yepp i know that but you dident define it and all dont know it so i used it!

If you didn't understand what using the term "Uncle Sam" means, you aren't American or you are part of the population of stupid Americans making the rest of the educated people look bas in the eyes of a gullible, stupid world.

Krew
10-14-2010, 05:59 AM
If you didn't understand what using the term "Uncle Sam" means, you aren't American or you are part of the population of stupid Americans making the rest of the educated people look bas in the eyes of a gullible, stupid world.

If I know who Uncle Ben is but not Uncle Sam, am I fat? :(

jesper1
10-14-2010, 06:30 AM
If you didn't understand what using the term "Uncle Sam" means, you aren't American or you are part of the population of stupid Americans making the rest of the educated people look bas in the eyes of a gullible, stupid world.

Im from sweden

expo
10-14-2010, 02:15 PM
Im from sweden

Then why are you trying to tell me how it should be when Sweden is far different from America? I don't go to Swedish forums and tell Swedish people how they ought to live.

cyberbritt
10-14-2010, 05:10 PM
Well you are discussing the president and politics, so i guess that he can say hes meaning. I do personaly like my countries system and won`t try to convince you about what i mean is the best or discuss for the best solution.

Faded
10-14-2010, 05:21 PM
The grammatical and spelling skills of the users of this board would support that statement.

Are you saying Americans can't spell correctly? :P

Syke
10-14-2010, 05:28 PM
Are you saying Americans can't spell correctly? :P

No. I'm saying a lot of people who use this board can't spell.

Who's "our"? Probably 70% of this forum isn't American.

Unlimited
10-14-2010, 05:32 PM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5225/acmemeyourflame1.png

Wolferine
10-14-2010, 06:09 PM
Is black and has a blue lambourghini.

Krew
10-14-2010, 09:14 PM
is black and has a blue lambourghini.

my president is black. My lambo is blue!

expo
10-14-2010, 09:26 PM
Well you are discussing the president and politics, so i guess that he can say hes meaning. I do personaly like my countries system and won`t try to convince you about what i mean is the best or discuss for the best solution.

I brought up him forcing his government's system onto America because most other countries always whine about the US trying to force things onto the world. I have no problem when someone else discusses politics, but when they make double standards and act like hypocrites, I will call them out.

ender95
11-25-2010, 05:22 PM
I brought up him forcing his government's system onto America because most other countries always whine about the US trying to force things onto the world. I have no problem when someone else discusses politics, but when they make double standards and act like hypocrites, I will call them out.

dude, you call people out even when they make perfect sence and are not being hipacridicle

Syke
11-25-2010, 05:34 PM
dude, you call people out even when they make perfect sence and are not being hipacridicle

1.) Old thread is old.
2.) One can say something moron whilst making perfect sense and not being a hypocrite.
3.) We're not in the 20th century anymore, browsers have built in spell checkers now. USE THEM.

ender95
11-25-2010, 07:33 PM
1.) Old thread is old.
2.) One can say something moron whilst making perfect sense and not being a hypocrite.
3.) We're not in the 20th century anymore, browsers have built in spell checkers now. USE THEM.

1. I can post on an old thread if I want to.
2. He was saying he calls out people when they are being hipicriticle
3. I'm partually blind, and have no idea where the "bilt in spell checker" is, nor how to use it so sorry :) you will just have to deal with my mentally challenged spelling ^^

Syke
11-25-2010, 07:59 PM
1. I can post on an old thread if I want to.
2. He was saying he calls out people when they are being hipicriticle
3. I'm partually blind, and have no idea where the "bilt in spell checker" is, nor how to use it so sorry :) you will just have to deal with my mentally challenged spelling ^^

Just because you can, does not mean that you should. Similar to your IQ level, just because you're a retard doesn't mean you should spread it.

You can't even fucking spell, do you expect me to believe you know what the word means?

You saw, and replied to mine and Expo's posts just fine, save for your atrocious spelling, do you really think I'm dim enough to believe that your ass is partially blind? You're even more retarded than you seem. Do the entire world a favor and log out of AC Web and don't ever come back.

Also one's inability to see does not affect their ability to spell. If I gouge my eyes out with a knife right now I could still spell simple words, moreover computers come with utilities to assist both hearing and sight impaired people, wait, I forgot you're too stupid to know how to work even a spell checker.

Cloudfly
11-25-2010, 08:34 PM
i think obama is ok. i think its about time there was a black president. i beleve he is somewhat inexperenced but i like the change of pace.

expo
11-25-2010, 10:21 PM
dude, you call people out even when they make perfect sence and are not being hipacridicle

Dude, you just called me out when I made perfect sense and wasn't being hypocritical.

1. I can post on an old thread if I want to.
2. He was saying he calls out people when they are being hipicriticle
3. I'm partually blind, and have no idea where the "bilt in spell checker" is, nor how to use it so sorry :) you will just have to deal with my mentally challenged spelling ^^

1. Bumping old threads makes you look bad.
2. You called me out saying I called people out for being hypocritical. But somehow you can't spell.
3. You are partially dumb to boot. Right clicking on underlined words red tend to help. We will just continue to point it out.

i think obama is ok. i think its about time there was a black president. i beleve he is somewhat inexperenced but i like the change of pace.

Yup. He was our first and our last black president. Generally it smart to make a good first impression, not a bad one. Lets hope we get a woman in office so we can get back to more educated people. I love sarcastic sexism and racism.
/inb4racistsreportmeandracistsbanme