Where does my 15 bucks a month go

[voodoofury]

Do you guys think the 15 bucks a month ppl pay for WoW retail actually goes to keeping it functional or do you think blizzard is just making a killing off of people?

[Clain]

Pshhh its not to keep it functional. They are just making a killing off of people. They have millions of players who pay 15 dollars a month...think of how much money that is

[Newbie12]

starcraft online development ftw :D
just kidding, no they go to feed a bunch of people doing nothing ;)
imagine be the owner of rights such as wow, gm's are free they get
payed with a free account, devs well who needs them :p

so basicly you get a whole lot of people that like to get screwed once a month.
they are gonna pay you to get screwed, been like that since Ultima online.
god damn UO is ugly ewen the new revised version. anywho's

just payrolls, new cars, houses, vecations, planes etc ;)

[skaterneko]

Exactly

[voodoofury]

yea thats kinda how I feel on the subject...I hope soon private servers will fuck thier asses up lawsuits FTW

[skaterneko]

XD totally

[Varriska]

A friend of mine runes a private server and can have about 200 people on his one server at once and he only has to pay 240 a month to keep it running...about a buck per player

[[Nazzeth]]

gm's are free they get
payed with a free account,

Where the hell do u get that bullshit from?

GM's dont get payed with accounts, they get payed with money.

Most GM's Have personal accounts, because GM accounts can be shared, especially between lower ranking GM's.

Get ur facts straight.

A friend of mine runes a private server and can have about 200 people on his one server at once and he only has to pay 240 a month to keep it running...about a buck per player

When i ran my server i could get a total of 500 people on before it caused to much strain for the comp (obviously more people, more lag) and it cost me 40 a month to run.

yea thats kinda how I feel on the subject...I hope soon private servers will fuck thier asses up lawsuits FTW

If BLizzard and the Combined force of every single Private server user went up against eachother, BLizzard would pwn face. Thats why we must bide our time and attack from the inside. For more information on the BLizzard will die scheme, msn me.

[voodoofury]

I dont wanna msn you..I hate you ur an asshole...oh...I dont have msn either

[[Nazzeth]]

I'm the biggest Asswhole u ever met, But who better to lead a war against a multi million dollar industry giant then the guy who can see flaws in everyone and everything faster tehn most people see the thing or person

[voodoofury]

get on your msn asshole

[amanzer1]

It's not pure profit. Do you realize how much money it costs to support over 10 million accounts? In one year Blizzard probably spends more money on hardware maintenance then anyone on this forum will make in their entire life. Not to mention, Blizzard has other multi-million dollar projects that are being completely funded by WoW's revenue.

So, in short.. I guess, if $15.00 a month is too much for anyone... get a job.

[voodoofury]

if you had a job and didn't rely on mommy and daddy to pay for your WoW it would burn your ass too...

[amanzer1]

Are you talking to me?

[[Nazzeth]]

Smash him amanzer1! Faggot just called u a bumb!

[amanzer1]

lol, I'd be taking it more offensively if I didn't know that I work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week... lol

[LumZor]

Well They Have 9,000,000 Players As They Say "They=Blizz" Phsss!

So 9,000,000x15=135,000,000 PER FUCKING MONTH!!!

"Yes i used Calculator... :P"


Well Now I'd say about 5,000,000-10,000,000
Goes to the staff like GMs and other people

Then The Equipement about 30,000,000-50,000,000
I BET I SAYED TOOO MUTCH!!!

so lets say 10,000,000+50,000,000=60,000,000

"No i didnt use calculator for this one :P smart me.. :P"

So 135,000,000-60,000,000= 75,000,000

"was thinking about calculator but didnt needed! :P"

So They Have 75,000,000 Euro Profit per month now 12x

so 75,000,000x12= 900,000,000 {WTF!!!!}

"Ye ye u got me used calculator"

So 900.000.000 EURO!!! PER YEAR!!!

SO FAR THEY GOT LIKE 3 BILIONS AND WOW SHALL BE FREE!!!

This is just a guess... but makes big sence...

[Remus]

your math is wrong

okay they have some 9.5 million accounts registered

i my self have 3 >.> dont ask why and i wont have to kill you.

i know some people who have over 5..
the reason it went from 7.5 mil to 9.5 mill... GOLD SELLERS getting acc and making cash.

so assume this
only about 1/2 is actual non- chinese accounts who play their accounts
so that is roughly 4.5 million accounts
so now the math is like this

4,500,000 X 14.99= 67,455,000 USD

they have 223 realms -- http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ --

assuming they are running what wowscape runs we can estimate about

a stable number(since blizz is cost cutters) 4,000 USD EACH realm

223 X 4,000 = 892,000 USD PER MONTH to run the servers

now assuming they have staff numbering
about 6 gm's per server, = (223 X 6 = 1338 GMS * notice they are one step abot LEET for you slow ppl-- 1337 says that in slang)
atleast 30 techs to work on electrical etc. ( staff so far= 1338 + 30= 1368)
also assuming they have a support help line with about 30 people ( staff = 1368 + 30= 1398)
about 40 brokers (staff = 1398 + 40= 1438)
__ ^ this is just the pay by week ppl__ GRAND total at a little above minimum wage 6.50 per hour so

6.50 X 1438 = 9347 USD every hour, ;; ppl work 8 hrs a day so-- 9347 X 8= 74,776 USD daily;;
74,776 X 5 (alternating shifts make out for weekends)
74,776 X 5 = 373,880 USD weekly;;

373,880 X 4= 1,495,520 USD MONTHLY TO NORMAL EMPLOYEES

---- now for the upper cabinets
CEO's avg about 200,000 per month_ say they have a cabinet of 9 + the pres.

ceo's = 10 (10 X 2,000,000= 20,000,000 USD PER MONTH TO THEM)--

GOOD LAWYERS avg 100,000 per month i believe they have many lawsuits so avg is about 15 lawyers

15 X 100,000= 1,500,000 USD PER MONTH TO LEGAL PPL
then an estimate of about 500,000 USD TO LEGAL FEES

forums techies, DEVS/ testers 300 give or take

assuming this average for them all is about 50 $ per hour (devs making this big but still works)
they work for 8 hours a day
8 X 100= 800 USD per person
800 X 300 = 2400 USD per day 2400 X 5= 10200 USD a week

10200 X 4= 40,800 USD PER MONTH TO DEVS

THE SALES TEAM
100 or so
50 USD a hour also

5,000 USD daily;;; 5,000 X 6 (saturdays included) 30,000 USD;;;

30,000 x 4= 120,000 USD A MONTH TO THE SALES TEAM

so far category wise i will list the final total for each section THEY PAY OUT:


892,000 USD PER MONTH to run the servers
1,495,520 USD MONTHLY TO NORMAL EMPLOYEES
20,000,000 USD PER MONTH TO CEO's
1,500,000 USD PER MONTH TO LEGAL PEOPLE
500,000 USD TO LEGAL FEES
40,800 USD PER MONTH TO DEVS
120,000 USD A MONTH TO THE SALES TEAM-----------------------
24,472,320 USD A MONTH TO BLIZZARD EMPLOYED PEOPLE

--- Franchise costs= a safe est. of 1,000,000 USD a month for logo EVERYTHING

so the grand total is
25,548,320 USD THEY PAY OUT MONTHLY

OKAY NOW LETS SEE HOW MUCH GOES TO TAXES (from the money they get IN)

67,455,000 USD
X .0825 (Federal tax in most states)
--------------------
5,565,037.50 USD TO TAXES

NOW FOR THE GRAND TOTAL THEY PAY OUT -(minus/subtract) THE MONEY THE GET IN

25,548,320.00 USD (employees)
+ 5,565,037.50 USD (taxes)
------------------
31,113,357.50 USD OUT

so still assuming atleast half of the ppl with accounts acually pay/play monthly

67,455,000.00 USD ( IN )
- 31,113,357.50 USD ( OUT )
______________
36,341,642.50 USD left over. good chance it possibly for utilities or what ever for other licensing bs.

[LumZor]

still the servers and staff payement cant reach over 20,000,000 per month

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!

so just say it is... lolz... you still got 47,455,000 and now by 12 {whole year}

it is 569,460,000 FOR YEAR PROFIT!!!! AND DONT SAY I@M FUCKING WRONG NOW>>> BECAUSE I@M NOT!!!

it IS just ACURATE!!!

[Remus]

we cant be sure , cause we are not the accountants at blizz. we shall never know till someone form here either hacks their paystubs or works for them.

[[Nazzeth]]

your math is wrong

okay they have some 9.5 million accounts registered

i my self have 3 >.> dont ask why and i wont have to kill you.

i know some people who have over 5..
the reason it went from 7.5 mil to 9.5 mill... GOLD SELLERS getting acc and making cash.

so assume this
only about 1/2 is actual non- chinese accounts who play their accounts
so that is roughly 4.5 million accounts
so now the math is like this

4,500,000 X 14.99= 67,455,000 USD

they have 223 realms -- http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ --

assuming they are running what wowscape runs we can estimate about

a stable number(since blizz is cost cutters) 4,000 USD EACH realm

223 X 4,000 = 892,000 USD PER MONTH to run the servers

now assuming they have staff numbering
about 6 gm's per server, = (223 X 6 = 1338 GMS * notice they are one step abot LEET for you slow ppl-- 1337 says that in slang)
atleast 30 techs to work on electrical etc. ( staff so far= 1338 + 30= 1368)
also assuming they have a support help line with about 30 people ( staff = 1368 + 30= 1398)
about 40 brokers (staff = 1398 + 40= 1438)
__ ^ this is just the pay by week ppl__ GRAND total at a little above minimum wage 6.50 per hour so

6.50 X 1438 = 9347 USD every hour, ;; ppl work 8 hrs a day so-- 9347 X 8= 74,776 USD daily;;
74,776 X 5 (alternating shifts make out for weekends)
74,776 X 5 = 373,880 USD weekly;;

373,880 X 4= 1,495,520 USD MONTHLY TO NORMAL EMPLOYEES

---- now for the upper cabinets
CEO's avg about 200,000 per month_ say they have a cabinet of 9 + the pres.

ceo's = 10 (10 X 2,000,000= 20,000,000 USD PER MONTH TO THEM)--

GOOD LAWYERS avg 100,000 per month i believe they have many lawsuits so avg is about 15 lawyers

15 X 100,000= 1,500,000 USD PER MONTH TO LEGAL PPL
then an estimate of about 500,000 USD TO LEGAL FEES

forums techies, DEVS/ testers 300 give or take

assuming this average for them all is about 50 $ per hour (devs making this big but still works)
they work for 8 hours a day
8 X 100= 800 USD per person
800 X 300 = 2400 USD per day 2400 X 5= 10200 USD a week

10200 X 4= 40,800 USD PER MONTH TO DEVS

THE SALES TEAM
100 or so
50 USD a hour also

5,000 USD daily;;; 5,000 X 6 (saturdays included) 30,000 USD;;;

30,000 x 4= 120,000 USD A MONTH TO THE SALES TEAM

so far category wise i will list the final total for each section THEY PAY OUT:


892,000 USD PER MONTH to run the servers
1,495,520 USD MONTHLY TO NORMAL EMPLOYEES
20,000,000 USD PER MONTH TO CEO's
1,500,000 USD PER MONTH TO LEGAL PEOPLE
500,000 USD TO LEGAL FEES
40,800 USD PER MONTH TO DEVS
120,000 USD A MONTH TO THE SALES TEAM-----------------------
24,472,320 USD A MONTH TO BLIZZARD EMPLOYED PEOPLE

--- Franchise costs= a safe est. of 1,000,000 USD a month for logo EVERYTHING

so the grand total is
25,548,320 USD THEY PAY OUT MONTHLY

OKAY NOW LETS SEE HOW MUCH GOES TO TAXES (from the money they get IN)

67,455,000 USD
X .0825 (Federal tax in most states)
--------------------
5,565,037.50 USD TO TAXES

NOW FOR THE GRAND TOTAL THEY PAY OUT -(minus/subtract) THE MONEY THE GET IN

25,548,320.00 USD (employees)
+ 5,565,037.50 USD (taxes)
------------------
31,113,357.50 USD OUT

so still assuming atleast half of the ppl with accounts acually pay/play monthly

67,455,000.00 USD ( IN )
- 31,113,357.50 USD ( OUT )
______________
36,341,642.50 USD left over. good chance it possibly for utilities or what ever for other licensing bs.

I have 4...

Dont ask, cuz I dont rightly no........

[Clain]

i have around 7...lol...trials...not...1 real one...

[M3DIC911]

lol, after reading all your nerdy calculations, i am going to applicate for Gm in Blizzard :P, i am skilled enough, but in my application like Private Servers, i cant say that i can make my own stuff... :P hahaha

[[Nazzeth]]

BLizzard servers and private servers are very Different.

You wont, get in

Mine are 4 real ones, Originaly and allinace and horde account for same PVP server, then one for an Ex, and another a mate gave me.

[Remus]

/cry you hurt my feelings... all of those are general guess's

[[Nazzeth]]

Guess's or Guesses?? (Seriously Don't know, No sarcasm or anything)

Personaly i didnt even bother reading them, I'm sure their right, you don't need me to check them.

Smash him amanzer1! Faggot just called u a bumb!
Lol i got minus rep for this

Everyone, Take my rep of me, Cuz i care sooooo much

[M3DIC911]

lol, how did the gms currently on Blizz get in ? :P

[voodoofury]

by the hand of God

[[Nazzeth]]

They have no positions available. U can check it out in the Careers section on the blizzard site

[voodoofury]

slavery is so not a career....

[[Nazzeth]]

Ur not a career

[amanzer1]

Ur not a career
...nice... >_>


lolz


Anyways, The short version goes something like this.

None of your math is correct, because none of you know the exact figures, and the fact that the Chinese pay by the hour (roughly $0.04/hour), and not a monthly rate, you'd have to factor about 5 million accounts out of the "$15" a month category.

So you're all wrong...

But I stand by my statement, if you can't afford $15 a month, then go out and get a job. It's cheaper than cocaine, so don't complain. =) lol

Edit: unintentional rhyme at the end there.. lol

[peterb]

I'm the biggest Asswhole u ever met, But who better to lead a war against a multi million dollar industry giant then the guy who can see flaws in everyone and everything faster tehn most people see the thing or person

you sound like me

[[Nazzeth]]

Your enterting Dangerous territory peter. Carefull now

[Apophysis]

They have no positions available. U can check it out in the Careers section on the blizzard site


then how come in Scbw and Wc3 they are always having the adds that say Blizzard is RECRUITING!! apply now *see website for details.

[SuperD38]

I found all the guessed math quite fun... :D
What about the buildings? Utilities?... Janitors? Maintenance? Red Bull and Hot Pockets to keep the "techies" going?
I'm sure blizzard isn't entirely virtual. Someone needs to kick/replace the hamster when the realm crashes. :rolleyes:

But, true there aren't really 9 million actual paying players. That's just a sales pitch. Anyone believe Mr. T and Shatner really play? lol Would love to find em in PvP some time.

I do feel $15 is allot for the number of "Players" though.

[[Nazzeth]]

then how come in Scbw and Wc3 they are always having the adds that say Blizzard is RECRUITING!! apply now *see website for details.

Then people see for details, apply, and before u finished reading the word Blizzard, they have already filled the positions.

[ChronicTec]

I say down with the WAR LORD they call Blizzard

Like there not making money hand over fist !!

ALL hail Free MMORP's

:D

[ggace]

I'm the biggest Asswhole u ever met, But who better to lead a war against a multi million dollar industry giant then the guy who can see flaws in everyone and everything faster tehn most people see the thing or person

I am so glad this ass clown is banned.

If he is so good at seeing "flaws" then he damn well should take a look in a mirror. He is a walking talking flaw machine. What a douch bag....

FYI.

If you take blizzard down will would also crash all private servers for blizzard will cling to every doller they have.

You would have to say buh bye to private servers are we knew them.

[stiffl33t]

A friend of mine runes a private server and can have about 200 people on his one server at once and he only has to pay 240 a month to keep it running...about a buck per player

Dude u know that ur friend's a dumbass right????!?!??!?!?!?!!!!1!1!1+1+1+1+!+1+!+1+1+11 :P (nvm) Cuz he's pyaing 240 a month omg! U can have like 9999999999999999999999999999999999 players on one srvr (though it will lag... ALOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!!) Tell him to go a web site called AC-WEB AND DL IT FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!! He can get it exactly as good as he has... adding custom portals, items, vendors, questgivers etc... Omg what a dumbass

[doublehex]

stiff your the dumbass...what he said is that his friend bought a dedicated server that his wow server is running on...