K2/Spice

[TheMagic]

Should K2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_%28drug%29) and Spice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_%28drug%29) be illegal? It's herbs sprayed with Tetrahydrocannabinol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol), which is under Schedule I.

Edit: (In the US)

[Le-Froid]

Should K2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_%28drug%29) and Spice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_%28drug%29) be illegal? It's herbs sprayed with Tetrahydrocannabinol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol), which is under Schedule I.

Edit: (In the US)

K2/Spice is full of toxins that mess up your mind/body, and they should be illegal.

Weed and THC is completely harmless, however, and should be 100% legal.

[TheMagic]

Apparently not. -_-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis

And it's 'are' not 'is', I can see the side effects already.

Weed and THC is completely harmless

[Le-Froid]

Apparently not. -_-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis

And it's 'are' not 'is', I can see the side effects already.

Lol, I've been smoking for 3 years and I know people who've been smoking for over 30. There are no problems related to smoking any form of cannabis unless you are allergic to it or are suffering from preexisting mental issues. Cannabis is a medicine, not a poison, and it helps people with several problems such as Autism (which I know from personal experience)

As for the article, just by looking at it for 2 minutes I can tell that all of it is propaganda or the truth is extremely exaggerated. You can bring up any point they mention in that article and I can prove it false.

Oh yeah and http://forum.onemanga.com/image.php?groupid=1086&dateline=1262327675

[AwkwardDev]

Haha, the Grammer nazi pwns :D.

[TheMagic]

Doubt that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars

Pillar #2

Source: I'm a Wikipedia addict.

I can tell that all of it is propaganda or the truth is extremely exaggerated.

[Le-Froid]

Doubt that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars

Pillar #2

Source: I'm a Wikipedia addict.

I'll say it again: Point out any part of that article and I'll prove it false.

I don't care what Wikipedia's pillars are, the article you linked is proof that every page does not follow the pillars. Just because Wikipedia says something does not mean it's true.

[TheMagic]

Okay,

"THC passes into breast milk."

[Le-Froid]

Okay,

"THC passes into breast milk."

That part of the Pregnancy article is true, because everything that goes into the mother will go into the breast milk, so you can say that about any substance.

The main article it's under is not all true though, for example

"the use of marijuana or cocaine during pregnancy is associated with impaired fetal growth"

(I'm not going to make an argument about cocaine during pregnancy, that definitely has bad effects on fetal growth)

Among the studies that have investigated the relationship between prenatal marijuana exposure and birth outcome, the results have been inconsistent. Except for adolescent mothers, there is little evidence that gestation is shorter in mothers who smoke marijuana. Several studies of women who smoked marijuana regularly during pregnancy show that they tend to give birth to lower weight babies.
For most of these studies, much of the harms associated with marijuana use are consistent with those associated with tobacco use, and smoking is a significant factor so the contribution of cannabinoids cannot be confirmed. However, Jamaican women who use marijuana rarely smoke it, but instead prepare it as tea. In a study of neonates born to Jamaican women who either did or did not ingest marijuana during pregnancy, there was no difference in neurobehavioral assessments made at 3 days after birth and at one month.

So basically the cannabis is not affecting fetal growth, the smoke is. If you use a different method like eating or drinking it there is no recorded bad effects.

[TheMagic]

Except 95% of people smoke it, maybe crack whores just shouldn't get knocked up and smoke weed. And I say weed but I meant for this thread to be over K2/Spice/THC not Cannabis.

[Le-Froid]

Except 95% of people smoke it, maybe crack whores just shouldn't get knocked up and smoke weed. And I say weed but I meant for this thread to be over K2/Spice/THC not Cannabis.

The main ingredient in cannabis is THC :\

Anyway back to the original topic: K2/Spice is a shitty replacement for weed, any synthetic replacement (in spice it's JWH 018) is bound to be worse than the original and it is even harmful. Because of the prohibition of cannabis there isn't any official testing on thc and cannabinoids, so we don't even know fully how the cannabinoids work (we do know a little through unofficial testing, but not 100%)and yet at the same time are making synthetic versions to get around the legality of the situation. Right now we should be having weed legal and JWH 018 illegal.

BTW replacements like K2 and Spice and whatever will never work because you need fully authentic cannabinoids to get the medical and recreational effects of cannabis. There are special cannabinoid receptors in your brain and body that only process natural cannabis, so its pretty random what happens when you get a substance that tries to emulate the real thing.

[TheMagic]

I think they should legalize weed and go back to prohibition, alcohol's much worse than Marijuana, but there's no denying smoking anything is bad for your lungs.

[pointblank65]

Lol, I've been smoking for 3 years and I know people who've been smoking for over 30. There are no problems related to smoking any form of cannabis unless you are allergic to it or are suffering from preexisting mental issues. Cannabis is a medicine, not a poison, and it helps people with several problems such as Autism (which I know from personal experience)

As for the article, just by looking at it for 2 minutes I can tell that all of it is propaganda or the truth is extremely exaggerated. You can bring up any point they mention in that article and I can prove it false.

Oh yeah and http://forum.onemanga.com/image.php?groupid=1086&dateline=1262327675

THC inhibits the immune system to fight disease effectively so it may not directly cause serious illness, but it it helps other diseases take grasp. Also, inhaling any type of smoke is hazardous to your health.

To say there are no health problems that result from smoking weed is ignorant but so is the black sheep campaign people are using against it. There are far worse and legal things you can do to your body than smoke weed.

[Unlimited]

FOR FUCKS SAKES,

MARIUJANA should not be legalised at this stage because of the enourmous demand for it, which would result in a fuck load of society smoking it and feeling its effects, emphasised especially dangerous when driving. YES, it is hardly harmful at all. Scientifically there is no reason for mariujuana to be illicit. But socially, not at all until this becomes more discrete at this current stage and governments can implement strong law enforcement for the usage of it.

Now as far as K2 and Spice goes, well that I am no expert on; but I am just here dropping by to make my point about your fucking sad fight on weed.