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Protoss7
05-07-2010, 09:12 PM
Ok, so I was watching a TV show that shows the following sum that uses infinity. Using this sum, it was proved that
1 + 1 = 1
http://i42.tinypic.com/fcqjl.jpg
I take no credit for this, it is an extract taken from a BBC show "Horizon".

Using this sort of theory, you can prove that;
X + X = X

What do you think about this? Do you think infinity is actually a number, or is it just a concept?

ekrajb123
05-07-2010, 09:15 PM
Ok, so I was watching a TV show that shows the following sum that uses infinity. Using this sum, it was proved that
1 + 1 = 1
http://i42.tinypic.com/fcqjl.jpg

Using this sort of theory, you can prove that;
X + X = X

What do you think about this? Do you think infinity is actually a number, or is it just a concept?

You raise some very good questions, though Ill stick to the fact, thats it just a concept :S The other thing sounds too confusing and imposible, sry. Might be right, but I dont see it

Ooberstan
05-07-2010, 10:00 PM
Really not confusing. Just takes some brain power. Honestly, it makes perfect sense. And really, Math was invented by US, just like time, and others. What's to say WE were wrong? Because really, are humans 100% correct? No. So why should the stuff WE create, be correct? Think about it.

cillian
05-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Its a concept, but the expression of 0 allows it to be defined as a number.

Unlimited's mom
05-07-2010, 10:44 PM
1+1 = Ffthour

pointblank65
05-08-2010, 04:10 AM
It is irrational to believe that if I have one apple in a basket, and pick up one more apple and put it in the basket that I have one apple total in the basket.

If anything, infinity is a concept.

Protoss7
05-08-2010, 09:07 AM
It is irrational to believe that if I have one apple in a basket, and pick up one more apple and put it in the basket that I have one apple total in the basket.

If anything, infinity is a concept.

I know, it doesn't actually make any sense. The sum I gave above is what would happen is we assume infinity to be 'another number'. It completely ignores a lot of standard maths rules.

When looking at infinity, whatever you add, minus, times or divide by, you will always get infinity. That is except if if do
infinity - infinity
when you get 0 instead.

The other example I got from this show of infinity was based on a hotel.
If you go into a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms, but it's full, and you ask to check in, you shouldn't be able to because it's full. If you ask to check into the last available room (since theirs an infinite amount available), you won't be able to, since the last room is always full.
The only way to get around this, is to move the person from room 1 into room 2, room 2 into room 3 etc, moving the infinite amount of people into the infinite amount of rooms, leaving room 1 free for you to check into.
Then you can get to the problem of, if the infinite amount of people staying decided to check out, but you decided to stay, you then get to;
infinite - infinite = 1

If, however, you had checked in with a friend and they too decided to stay then;
infinite - infinite = 2

This is a never ending loop, and can go on forever, this therefore proves that
infinite - infinite = X


I know a lot of people will say that makes no sense, but it really does, it may be that I wrote it out badly, but the concept of it does make sense.

cillian
05-08-2010, 09:36 AM
I understand where you are coming from with that one, But the equasion that is posted on the top wouldn't work out, Because 0xinf=0 because anything multiplied by 0 is equal to 0.

khaled123
05-08-2010, 09:40 AM
Really not confusing. Just takes some brain power. Honestly, it makes perfect sense. And really, Math was invented by US, just like time, and others. What's to say WE were wrong? Because really, are humans 100% correct? No. So why should the stuff WE create, be correct? Think about it.

lol math is invented by arabic people thats what i know

Protoss7
05-08-2010, 10:01 AM
I understand where you are coming from with that one, But the equasion that is posted on the top wouldn't work out, Because 0xinf=0 because anything multiplied by 0 is equal to 0.

Go onto a calculator and type in
1 / 0
You'll get an error like "Math error". This is because anything divided by 0 is equal to infinity.
With the equation, you also times the infinity and 1/0 by 0, which gives you the
0 x infinity = 1
Since we don't know how infinity works, the number goes into positive and negative (a lot of people don't believe this for some reason, but infinity goes on for an infinite amount of time in both directions). It could however also be something else, maybe there's more than just positive and negative. Without knowing this, the equation doesn't technically work, but we can't know for sure that it's wrong.

mag1212
05-08-2010, 11:11 AM
Really not confusing. Just takes some brain power. Honestly, it makes perfect sense. And really, Math was invented by US, just like time, and others. What's to say WE were wrong? Because really, are humans 100% correct? No. So why should the stuff WE create, be correct? Think about it.Har Har you're really stupid. math was invented before north america was discovered

Speachless
05-08-2010, 11:16 AM
Same with stuff like this:

You have 2 pieces of yellow clay and 2 pieces of blue clay and you want to put them all together
Makes 2+2=4

BUT when clay gets together it will form one piece sooo...
2+2=1?

We all think we are so smart but we are so totally retarded, imo there are much smarter beings that are looking over us like animals and just laugh at all the idiotic stuff we from far away in space.

Aldaeld666
05-08-2010, 11:29 AM
You are talikng about limits of matematical expresions, by this way, you ony can make infinity plus infinity when you know that the result, might be the result of two other equacions.

It's not too easy xP

Protoss7
05-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Har Har you're really stupid. math was invented before north america was discovered

But US he's referring to us the humans, he capitalized it for emphasis.