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Xyolexus
04-22-2010, 05:46 PM
If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but only moved, how does that explain the creation of the universe, and if it cannot be destroyed, will the universe ever end?


There may be a simple explanation for this, just worth mentioning.

IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL, OR HAVE NO IDEA OF SCIENCE, PLEASE LEAVE.

AwkwardDev
04-22-2010, 05:48 PM
Its simply like this. The energy isn't destroyable because its always in move. The energy is the magnetism which is making the things to move, and no it cannot be desrtoyed easy because everything must dissapear and I am sure it wont happen or it wont be in near 2000000000 thousand years. I am The most bastard and idiot you have ever heard, I am sure of that.

Xyolexus
04-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Not being rude or anything, but being able to understand what you're saying might help.

cillian
04-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Although that is a hard one to get a grips on, Mainly because there is no real way to reply with the limited wording of the English language because it can't exaplin these phenomon, I don't think the universe will ever end, but howeve our our Galaxy Will, (Ie. What we know as the Universe will)

Xyolexus
04-22-2010, 05:55 PM
Yes. The hardest part to explain is the creation of the universe, using the 'energy' theorem.

Wikipedia: A scientific theory cannot be proven; its key attribute is that it is falsifiable, that is, it makes predictions about the natural world that are testable by experiments.

cillian
04-22-2010, 06:03 PM
"A theory is never true."

pointblank65
04-22-2010, 06:16 PM
If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but only moved, how does that explain the creation of the universe, and if it cannot be destroyed, will the universe ever end?

There may be a simple explanation for this, just worth mentioning.

IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL, OR HAVE NO IDEA OF SCIENCE, PLEASE LEAVE.

In theory, so long as the universe continues to expand at a rate relatively equal to its density, the universe (as we know it) should be around.

However, if it starts expanding too rapidly or two slowly, it will likely collapse on itself and another big bang will happen. So technically, it will always be around, just not necessarily with us still in it (or how we see it now).

Tan976
04-22-2010, 10:41 PM
Very true. But Like Point said matter can collaspe on itself so theirs many ways were screwed...

Artilles
04-23-2010, 02:42 AM
If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but only moved, how does that explain the creation of the universe, and if it cannot be destroyed, will the universe ever end?


There may be a simple explanation for this, just worth mentioning.

IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL, OR HAVE NO IDEA OF SCIENCE, PLEASE LEAVE.

*Casts Arcane Brilliance* I IZ INTELLECTUAL! And no, i don't have any idea what you're bickering about..

deep6ixed
04-23-2010, 03:08 AM
Some points to consider

1.) While it is true that energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can do more than just move, it can change forms, such as electricity to heat (like a toaster).

2.) The universe is expanding, that point has been proven and accepted by the scientific community since it was discovered by Edwin Hubble

3.) Matter and energy are interchangable, (E=MC^2) It take a lot of energy to make a little tiny bit of mass, and it works the other way around (this is the basis of nuclear power)

4.) Since no new matter is nor energy is being created, the amount of energy in the universe is constant.

5.) As the universe expands the average energy density goes down. (more volume but same energy means lower density)

I can go into more detail, but the current view is that unless expansion stops, in some distant point in the future, the universe will go into "heat death" where the energy density will become next to zero. at this point all stars would have long since used up all their fuel and the universe would be cold and dark.

expo
04-23-2010, 03:59 AM
So far, we have been able to prove that energy cannot be created or destroyed. But like most scientific rulings, things change.

Neglected
04-27-2010, 03:17 PM
These guys have pretty much said it all.

Energy cannot be destroyed, nor made, so any energy created at the beginning of the Universe shall be around eternally... We know the universe is expanding. The 'energy' that causes this is Kinetic Energy. This is a morph from Gravitational Potential Energy. The heavier a thing is and the further we move it, the more energy it takes.

I'm not providing a point. Just an explanation. :3

expo
04-27-2010, 03:37 PM
Welcome to science, as long as you can't disprove a theory, they will tell you it is correct. Science lacks a burden of proof. Give it back to them.

kingdrani
04-27-2010, 03:55 PM
But then comes the question there has to beginning of all cause it jusnt isnt possible that everything has always been around and then again nothing cant come out of nothing

expo
04-27-2010, 06:55 PM
But then comes the question there has to beginning of all cause it jusnt isnt possible that everything has always been around and then again nothing cant come out of nothing

Which would make the bing bang a load of horse shit.

kingdrani
04-27-2010, 07:32 PM
^ Not really, cause the big bang is talked about particles being sucked together for then causing a explosion but then comes the question where did the particles come from?

expo
04-27-2010, 08:15 PM
^ Not really, cause the big bang is talked about particles being sucked together for then causing a explosion but then comes the question where did the particles come from?

They didn't come to be because science says they can't. Or they can and science is wrong within itself.

kingdrani
04-28-2010, 08:40 AM
Agreed

Neglected
04-29-2010, 07:23 PM
^ Not really, cause the big bang is talked about particles being sucked together for then causing a explosion but then comes the question where did the particles come from?

Slightly incorrect.

The Big Bang theory states that there was a singularity (an intensely small object which is intensely hot). There was only one of these (hence, singlularity). This somehow, and for some reason, expanded rapidly, causing Matter to collide with so-called 'Anti-Matter'. When both Matter and Anti-Matter collided, they were both eradicated (In my mind, clashing with the Energy Conservation theory) into nothingness. Therefore, there was more Matter than Anti-Matter, and as such, there is no more Anti-Matter left in the Universe (As far as the boffins can tell), which is why you don't see planets exploding for no reason whatsoever.

The Universe is still expanding, so it gets colder and colder (ever so slowly, as heat moves to cold areas). Essentially, the Universe is like a gas in a room or dye in water that is spreading through dispersion. Sooner or later, there will be no energy to heat the Universe, as all of this energy would have been converted into movement (spreading the Universe out) and planetary gravity/resources. This is why some scientists believe that the Universe will never 'end', but will just stop moving and freeze. The Universe will die.

runemaster
04-29-2010, 08:32 PM
If energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but only moved, how does that explain the creation of the universe, and if it cannot be destroyed, will the universe ever end?


There may be a simple explanation for this, just worth mentioning.

IF YOU ARE NOT INTELLECTUAL, OR HAVE NO IDEA OF SCIENCE, PLEASE LEAVE.


well, here, let me present my buddhist/satanist point of view.



Simply, since it can be be created or destroyed, it is split or merged. the universe continually expands, until the universe has spent all its heat and energy, then it will contract again into a thing even more tight and higher in gravity then any black hole, and explode and expand again. I believe this to be the universes cycle, like everything else, it must have a cycle.

expo
04-30-2010, 01:04 AM
Science, not very scientific.

runemaster
05-02-2010, 08:47 PM
since it can be be created or destroyed, it is split or merged. the universe continually expands, until the universe has spent all its heat and energy, then it will contract again into a thing even more tight and higher in gravity then any black hole, and explode and expand again. I believe this to be the universes cycle, like everything else, it must have a cycle.


Science, not very scientific.

how so.

TheMagic
05-03-2010, 11:19 PM
That's a not a theory it's a question but

how does that explain the creation of the universe

God.

Source: Your correct energy cannot be created, so there must be a God, this is my Logic.

will the universe ever end?

Yes it will, Scientists know that Galaxies are slowly being pulled away from each other, and after trillions of years the universe will begin to pull apart solar systems and eventually start to pull apart planets ending all life because the universe is infinitely expanding and no energy or matter is being created. Armageddon is true.

Source: Saw this last year on a special on History Channel