View Full Version : America.. Where are we heading..?
Speedr
12-13-2009, 10:38 AM
To start off, I don't want retards in this thread. This is intellectual. Use some sense. Thank you.
So, this thread is basically here to say What is Barack Obama doing to America?
I want people to answer just the following questions and give me your views on them. Or maybe just fill out this Format so we can keep this thread organized and do the point? I DO NOT want bickering. I want intellectual debate and discussion. Thank you, again.
1 ) Your Age :
2 ) Your Location :
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general?
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general?
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism?
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States?
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not?
I will of course, answer and discuss as people post!
funonabun
12-13-2009, 05:18 PM
I like how many people have this notion that the president has so much power, when he really doesn't.
Learn 2 congress noob.
Vinze
12-13-2009, 08:12 PM
To start off, I don't want retards in this thread. This is intellectual. Use some sense. Thank you.
So, this thread is basically here to say What is Barack Obama doing to America?
I want people to answer just the following questions and give me your views on them. Or maybe just fill out this Format so we can keep this thread organized and do the point? I DO NOT want bickering. I want intellectual debate and discussion. Thank you, again.
1 ) Your Age :
2 ) Your Location :
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general?
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general?
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism?
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States?
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not?
I will of course, answer and discuss as people post!
I am just curious why you had to do this after that Bush leaves... Failthread is fail...
The first two questions are the most fucked up about it, you will clearly judge people by it.
slade1000
12-13-2009, 08:31 PM
why is it a fail thread
cyberbritt
12-13-2009, 08:36 PM
1 ) Your Age : 18
2 ) Your Location : Norway
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :Sosialism
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers? yes he is bringing you some closer to the Communism, and thats fine, i do realy like it cuz ure setting today make all the rich richer and all the poor poorer.
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general? i dont know who that is
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general? i dont know who that is
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general? i dont know who that is
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism? If its any way to fix the economy, you got a gigantic bill, then he would make it better than allot i think. and yes your moving some out of capitalism.
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States? no not only capatilism, becouse many reasons
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not? y i do back the current in-debate helthcare, becouse Usa got the worst setting on healthcare in the world this days
slade1000
12-13-2009, 09:18 PM
hmm weird i always though we had a better health care then most countries. Its true we need some reforms like mabey opening up health care so its not just in state so you can buy it anywhere in america but at least we dont have to wait twelve months to get a operation.
Heres some reading for peolpe who think the health care is so much better in other countries
TRCB.COM - The Red Carpet Broadcast (http://www.trcb.com/health-and-fitness/healthcare-systems/englands-health-care-system-2505.html)
The Problems with Socialized Health Care (http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html)
and have any of you actually read the health care bill Im not saying i have but I have heard there is a lot of loop holes in the bill itself.
Why should we be charge or thrown i jail even if we dont go with the public option shouldnt it be our choice if we want to go with a private provider or not. Some peolpe dont even want health care if your a health 20 year old in good shape ect. There would be no need for you to have health care just start a savings for yearly check ups and emergency money if something happens you shouldnt have to have health care. They can basicly tell you if you can live or not and if your old like above 60 then there probably not going to treat you even if you do have 20 more years of life your not worth it
and nanci pelosi is a communist pig
deep6ixed
12-13-2009, 09:39 PM
1 ) Your Age :
27
2 ) Your Location :
ohio
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :
Conservative
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
I belive that is is placing the county on a path to socialism. Too much governmental control. let the people do what is best for themselves.
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general? She called everyone who didnt agree with the new healthcare plan a nazi, yeah dont like her.
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general? Compared the heath care bill to the same stature as freeing the slaves, really? freeing the slaves, i think not.
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
He has a lot of good points and i do listen to him every now and then, but he really does stir the pot and piss people off, if your only political opinon is based off what this one guy says then well, you aint really got one.
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism? I would slash taxes in half for corporations and individuals, reagan and withing 3 years the economy was steaming at record levels from the worst recession (At the time) since the big one in the 1930's
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States? Hell yeah, it modivates people to do better
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not? oppose, ever heard the phrase to many cooks mess up the soup, it was tried over seas and its not working. (some countries have gotten it right findland for one.) but with too much rules and regulatuions its bound to fail.
I will of course, answer and discuss as people post!
Vinze
12-13-2009, 10:28 PM
why is it a fail thread
Simple: When America seems to make progress, he whines about it, but when it goes downhill, nobody cares.
slade1000
12-13-2009, 10:34 PM
America is making no progress whatsover please show me proof its making progress
Vinze
12-13-2009, 10:43 PM
America is making no progress whatsover please show me proof its making progress
I dunno... They seem to be okay with people smoking again...
QQrofl
12-13-2009, 10:49 PM
Smoking Kills.
slade1000
12-13-2009, 10:50 PM
I dunno... They seem to be okay with people smoking again...
/facepalm thats the progress we have made hahaha ok whatever
QQrofl
12-13-2009, 10:52 PM
America makes progress everyday, Obama, doesn't. :P
I like Vinze acting like he has a cluse when he is an elitist anti-American.
...Meheheheheheheh...
If only you could understand. Tsk tsk tsk.
Mari0
12-13-2009, 11:37 PM
america is the next africa.
Vinze
12-13-2009, 11:38 PM
america is the next africa.
I think you mean Canada...
Speedr
12-14-2009, 03:09 AM
I like how many people have this notion that the president has so much power, when he really doesn't.
Learn 2 congress noob.
Where at all did I say Barack Obama has oh so much power..?
Learn to read..
slade1000
12-14-2009, 03:22 AM
So does guns, but you seem pretty fucking happy about those...
...Meheheheheheheh...
Guns dont kill people. People kill people, guns are just the tool the use. Its a tool without guns we would simple have peolpe killing peolpe with knives whatever else or we would have only the "bad guys" have guns
Mari0
12-14-2009, 03:28 AM
yehh stoooooooooopid.
deterence
12-14-2009, 03:44 AM
To start off, I don't want retards in this thread. This is intellectual. Use some sense. Thank you.
You start out the entire thread saying that you don't want retard's in this thread.
Then you say you want this to be an intellectual discussion.
Retardation is a mental disability. If you're going to sound "intellectual", I would recommend using a word like "idiot."
As far as your thread goes, I cannot speak my opinion. Mostly because I am only 15 and I am not real big on politics.
Connertheskater
12-14-2009, 04:09 AM
1 ) Your Age :
2 ) Your Location :
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general?
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general?
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism?
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States?
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not?
My answer to all these questions,
Why do I care?
Speedr
12-14-2009, 06:16 AM
My answer to all these questions,
Why do I care?
Good question.
My answer to you.. You're apart of the generation that has everything handed to them.
I can't wait for you to grow up.
cyberbritt
12-14-2009, 06:43 AM
hmm weird i always though we had a better health care then most countries. Its true we need some reforms like mabey opening up health care so its not just in state so you can buy it anywhere in america but at least we dont have to wait twelve months to get a operation.
Heres some reading for peolpe who think the health care is so much better in other countries
Well i have seen a movie about it, in the Us it costs you so much you hardly can pay it, healthinsurance is for the lucky ppl since the people selling it even get bonuses for not selling it to more than a known number off people.
Here i am in Norway the hospitals are free, we got allot help to you and you will get 1 year off the jobb after the birth. Its not that long wait time eighter as you says, but well do u wait some time or do u pay more than you can?
Morragan
12-18-2009, 09:40 PM
..America is already at the rock bottom..
How/Why?
''IT'' only has one name, one identity, it's name strikes fear and horror into it's fellow ''Politicians''..
..George W Bush.
Artilles
12-18-2009, 09:44 PM
Well I don't know about the rest of America but I am headed to Vegas.
runemaster
12-19-2009, 06:14 AM
America.. Where are we heading..?
Into the shitter.
/end
seriously though? really? fine.
Don't get scared now that I'm not a typical person.
1 ) Your Age :
17
2 ) Your Location :
Florida, In the states.
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing :
Mid wing, too much of either left or right wing makes you an idiot, we need balance in this country and the best of both worlds.
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
He's doing pretty well for someone with NO EXPERIENCE IN POLITICS and not having many days in office. Socialist? No, matter of fact we have a little socialism and communist in our country anyhow, little bits of variety make this country great. As for closer? No closer then anyone else has before. Following the way? No one follows ways, however, Forges their own, who would want our president to be a sheep that follows other presidents footsteps, I'd rather him bring something new to the fucking office. God knows we need it.
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general?
Need I say more?
YouTube - Nancy Pelosi Techno Chicken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtCNDx5FiLk)
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general?
Never heard of him
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
Again, I have little knowledge of this person.
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism?
/sigh I would have to pull out a big economy lesson, here goes a small portion.
Jobs --> money, People buy crap with money, when people buy crap, it makes demand, when theres a demand, theres more jobs.
People have been making jobs, but alot of them have been losing more jobs then gaining, so this isn't helping. I would give a one time grant of 60,000$ to every american citizen, and parents get an additional 60,000$ per child. Giving money directly into the hands of the people creates spending, which makes the demand for the products, so more jobs are created and the economy comes out of a recession. No we are not moving out of capitalism. and barrack hasnt found this way yet, but better soon, he's on the right track.
Hows that?
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States?
Ofc it is. Theres ups and downs, but what type of economy doesn't? And it makes us rich and wide in variety.
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not?
I'm for it, No reason to oppose it. Healthcare = good. More taxes = more spending = more jobs anyhow. We all win. Sure some of us have SLIGHTLY increased taxes but radicals are running around angry they lost to obama so want to sling mud at him and make it look like hes not doing anything because anything he does do gets denied by them. Theres no real reason to deny the healthcare bill. No REAL reason. The tax increase is minimal if anything.
HelpForMoney
12-19-2009, 06:29 AM
Rune, you consider yourself intellectual, and do not know who Glenn Beck is. You really are a democrat, no doubt about it.
1 ) Your Age : 17
2 ) Your Location : nashville tn
3) Political Party Associated With Most or However You Would Describe Your Standing : Libertarian / Conservative Extremist
4 ) Barack Obama, what do you think about his current Job in the White House? Do you think he is a Socialist? Do you believe that he is bringing us closer to Communism? Is he not following the way of our Founding Fathers?
Socialism and communism are far steps of opposite directions. We are making more of a republic reform, as we don't have full access to legislature, but overall, he's not violating anything. Putting troops in Afghanistan was a great idea, especially now that Afghanistan can secure its borders from Pakistani rebels/liberationists
5 ) Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, your thoughts on here in general?
I think that in general, women suck at using logic, and there's no reason for her to have a position qualified with her educational standards within political science.
6 ) Harry Reid, what do you think of him in general?
He's a typical Nevada stock thief, what else?
7 ) Glenn Beck, your thoughts on him in general?
He gets to the point appropriately, and has great views on a backfire to each proposal to legislature, especially economically.
8) What would you do to fix the US Economy? Or do you believe it's on it's way under the command of Barack Obama? Do you believe that we are moving out of Capitalism?
Destroy federal monopoly, give tax cuts to overtaxed corporations, protect trust within small business, destroy corrupted private banks, destroy federal employees and base central power.
9 ) Do you believe that Capitalism is the smart way to run the United States?
Definately, but I believe in central power, IE monarchy
10 ) Do you back the current in-debate Healthcare Bill or Oppose it? Why or Why not?
I oppose it prior to the fact that we have a trembling economy, and there's nothing to benefit except longer Care Card estimations, which leads to more deaths, especially in cancer fields. It also will degrade social security benefits, as they are already pointless.
..America is already at the rock bottom..
How/Why?
''IT'' only has one name, one identity, it's name strikes fear and horror into it's fellow ''Politicians''..
..George W Bush.
Obamanation
Vinze
12-19-2009, 09:31 PM
Guns dont kill people. People kill people, guns are just the tool the use. Its a tool without guns we would simple have peolpe killing peolpe with knives whatever else or we would have only the "bad guys" have guns
Yeah, but cigarettes only kills the person using them, since passive smoking still remains a theory due to the lack of scientific evidence. Plus, many people live to be a hundred even if they chainsmoke, it has more to do with genetics than the actuall smoke...
Anonymous1969
12-27-2009, 10:09 PM
i posted this already but here it is again!!!!!!!!!! our country is in a sad state when we can let a black man be president! put in office by a corupt black organization called ACORN!witch funneled 100s of millions of our tax dollers! to fund a president whos afraid to stand up for whats relly important, granted healthcare is very important, but the war is of the upmost importance, many countrys want the great u.s to fall, and many countrys have the means to make it happen, our way of life in the u.s is going to be shortlived! sooner or later some nutcase like po pot is going to destroy this country, one nuke ends our way of life and maby the world! alot to think about,
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