Voting Age.

[Sniperhansen13]

In English Class we were supposted to write a 3-6 minutes speech on a topic that interesting you. One of the girls in my Class picked "Should we lower the voting age to 16" This topic really hit me. I think that "YES" We should. I have had VERY intellectual and political discussion with a lot of my classmates and its very interesting on seeing how much they know. So, This girl made a survey saying "If the voting age was at 16, Would you Vote?" I answered yes. But in a class of 25 people, 10 people answered NO. The girl then went to all the people who said NO and asked why. Their responses, "I don't know a lot about politics. I don't care. I just don't want to vote." Some of these kids in my English class are so self-centered, that they don't even know whats going on around them. They only are focusing on what THEY need and whats THEY want. I was drastically shocked at their responses.

SO. Other than my FAILING English class. What do you think? If the government decided to lower the voting age to 16 Would you vote?

Please Voice you Opinion.

P.S my English teacher is VERY cool, Just we got some "Special" kids in my class.

[xtavie]

"Some of these kids in my English class are so self-centered, that they don't even know whats going on around them. They only are focusing on what THEY need and whats THEY want."

There's your reason why it's eighteen... Sadly, that's the view of a majority of today's youth.

[Mazumion]

i agree with xtavie, it's just as we in sweden lowering the driving age to 16 then there would be more crashes, more people would get hurt or die in accidents on the road... it's stupid because some people doesn't mature until they are 18-21 ..... so it's a rather bad idea, i've had nice intellectual conversations before with people in the same age as me but we can all say something smart in one moment then something stupid the next.

[QQrofl]

Mature thoughts of 16 year olds? I don't think so, kids under 18 should not be able to vote because they will just be immature about it and just pick anything they want even though it is a serious matter on voting because if you just kid around and people would have "voted" for the wrong person, so technically 18+ is the way to go. But not even 18, I think it should be 20, imo because still people are sooo immature these days. I mean if you want to vote for the right person it is a serious matter not a laughing, joking, kidding matter. Everything should stay high driving wise I think it should be 18 at this point because a lot of teens like to speed and that will cause people to get killed, so there ya go. No voting until you are 18+ because immature actions can lead to bad decisions.

[R3dW3r3W0lf]

My opinion is that they should allow 16 year olds to vote BUT they must have a license and the ones who don't have that license cant. You can gain it by some type of test that proves that your legit or not. But if that doesn't work out then no. 18 years and older is the best bet that we get a good president and not some dictator who wants to kill us all. :O

[ProphetX]

18 is young enough, I know 20+ year olds who still get spoon-fed at home by their parents and if it were up to me I would raise the age to 21.

[ToXic_King]

In English Class we were supposted to write
Just we got some "Special" kids in my class.

''Special'' like freaks or?

[Artilles]

My english teacher got the nickname "Coffeecup" :D

[cyberbritt]

Mature thoughts of 16 year olds? I don't think so, kids under 18 should not be able to vote because they will just be immature about it and just pick anything they want even though it is a serious matter on voting because if you just kid around and people would have "voted" for the wrong person, so technically 18+ is the way to go. But not even 18, I think it should be 20, imo because still people are sooo immature these days. I mean if you want to vote for the right person it is a serious matter not a laughing, joking, kidding matter. Everything should stay high driving wise I think it should be 18 at this point because a lot of teens like to speed and that will cause people to get killed, so there ya go. No voting until you are 18+ because immature actions can lead to bad decisions.

I agree , And i have learned in school that the Human brain called Frontallappen on Norweagien,isnt ready until girls 18years and boys 20-23 to think right on what the consecvenses is of what you do.

[ToXic_King]

Mature thoughts of 16 year olds? I don't think so, kids under 18 should not be able to vote because they will just be immature about it and just pick anything they want even though it is a serious matter on voting because if you just kid around and people would have "voted" for the wrong person, so technically 18+ is the way to go. But not even 18, I think it should be 20, imo because still people are sooo immature these days. I mean if you want to vote for the right person it is a serious matter not a laughing, joking, kidding matter. Everything should stay high driving wise I think it should be 18 at this point because a lot of teens like to speed and that will cause people to get killed, so there ya go. No voting until you are 18+ because immature actions can lead to bad decisions.
wall of text?
but i agree

[Artilles]

You're saying i'm immature? :c

[robertx32]

well, i dont really care too but if i do i can tell my parents to vote for *** and so :D. cus almost every president is bullshit (just promise every fucking thing but when he become president he do nothing) thats why i dont care for will i vote....

[amanh]

18 is young enough, I know 20+ year olds who still get spoon-fed at home by their parents and if it were up to me I would raise the age to 21.


I agree. I can't tell you how many 18-21 year olds I've seen get brainwashed into the whole "HOPE" and "CHANGE" thing by Obama (besides those who only voted for him because he's black), who barely know his policies at all.

[xtavie]

I'm in total agreement with amanh.
On the "HOPE" and "CHANGE" thing, it's almost as if America's want for change is blinding their judgment and they refuse to find any faults in the person they believe will bring it...

[A Pretty Face]

Mature thoughts of 16 year olds? I don't think so, kids under 18 should not be able to vote because they will just be immature about it and just pick anything they want even though it is a serious matter on voting because if you just kid around and people would have "voted" for the wrong person, so technically 18+ is the way to go. But not even 18, I think it should be 20, imo because still people are sooo immature these days. I mean if you want to vote for the right person it is a serious matter not a laughing, joking, kidding matter. Everything should stay high driving wise I think it should be 18 at this point because a lot of teens like to speed and that will cause people to get killed, so there ya go. No voting until you are 18+ because immature actions can lead to bad decisions.

Maturity, QQrofl, differs from person to person. Not totally from age. A 16 year old boy could be more mature than you or I will ever be in our lives, we're not the ones to decided how mature people are. We decided how mature WE are, not anyone else.

The voting age should not be changed. It's done fine with how it is. Changing it would only allow a younger, more.. how do I say this.. inexperienced youth come into play in a very, delicate, and serious matter.. Which would only disrupt the already unstable wave it already is. Causing massive ripples to slam out into different places in the World, and strike up quite a bit of controversy.

[winkdog]

I think it should depend on your IQ more than your maturity level.

[ProphetX]

We can sit here all day and talk about how there are 16 year olds that are smarter and more mature than 25 year olds, but at the end of the day you need to consider the average maturity and intelligence of age groups.

On average, 18 is when people move out of home and get real jobs, and therefore 18 is when people start to become affected by the actions that the government takes. Joe Bloggs who is 16 may be smarter and more mature than John Smith who is 18, but Joe Bloggs has absolutely no idea what happens in the real world and probably wouldn't understand what each type of government stands for.

[sammyg69]

turkish snow clone?

[A Pretty Face]

We can sit here all day and talk about how there are 16 year olds that are smarter and more mature than 25 year olds, but at the end of the day you need to consider the average maturity and intelligence of age groups.

On average, 18 is when people move out of home and get real jobs, and therefore 18 is when people start to become affected by the actions that the government takes. Joe Bloggs who is 16 may be smarter and more mature than John Smith who is 18, but Joe Bloggs has absolutely no idea what happens in the real world and probably wouldn't understand what each type of government stands for.

ON AVERAGE, Prophet. That doesn't mean every single person in the World. And please, speak for yourself not for others my friend. "but Joe Bloggs has absolutely no idea what happens in the real World." You're speaking for someone else, no one has the authority to decided weather someone knows something or not. Now I'm not trying to start a fight, I just completely disagree with your statements.

[ProphetX]

ON AVERAGE, Prophet. That doesn't mean every single person in the World. And please, speak for yourself not for others my friend. "but Joe Bloggs has absolutely no idea what happens in the real World." You're speaking for someone else, no one has the authority to decided weather someone knows something or not. Now I'm not trying to start a fight, I just completely disagree with your statements.

I think I need to re-word what I said... Remember I'm talking about a "regular" 16 year old who goes to high school, gets average grades, and doesn't work except for maybe mowing lawns and doing a paper round. And then I'm talking about a "regular" 18 year old who has finished high school, moved out of home, and works full-time. I'm not talking about every 16 year old in the world, or every 18 year old in the world.

Also keep in mind that I'm talking from a New Zealand perspective, some of the things I say might not apply to other countries (e.g. the drinking age is 18 here) but you get the idea anyway :)

The reasons I believe that the 18 year old has the right to vote, and the 16 year old does not are:

The 18yo pays taxes, and therefore is affected by the tax rate which is controlled by the government. The 16yo doesn't pay taxes.
The 18yo drives on public roads, which are built and maintained by the government. The 16yo doesn't drive.
If the 18yo decides to go to University, the government decides (usually) how much they have to pay and also how much interest (if any) is put on their student loan. The 16yo is still in high school, this doesn't affect them.
If the 18yo decides to start their own business, they must follow the rules and guidelines set by the government. The 16yo would not be allowed to start a business.


As you can see, the average 18 year old does many more things that are affected by the government and how the country is run. If we let the average 16 year old vote, they will simply vote for the government that wishes to reduce the drinking age, or the driving age, etc. The average 18 year old is more interested in real issues like tax rates, student loans, interest rates, business laws, etc.

As I said before, if it were up to me I would raise the voting age to 21. It is unbelievable how many 18 year olds are unemployed and still live at home.

[A Pretty Face]

As I said before, if it were up to me I would raise the voting age to 21. It is unbelievable how many 18 year olds are unemployed and still live at home.

I agree.

Now I understand what you were saying, ProphetX. I agree with you, also. What you said before was a little confusing, and not very explanatory.

[Alvanaar]

As I said before, if it were up to me I would raise the voting age to 21. It is unbelievable how many 18 year olds are unemployed and still live at home.

Agreed.

But that'd mean that I'd have to wait a few more years to vote. However, I suppose it would be for the greater good if the voting age were raised.

[dragonchat20]

I don't believe it should be lowered. I'm 16, and I can tell you the things I hear from other kids in my grade make me think "wow!".

I agree with PropetX, the voting age should be raised, 18 year olds still haven't fully explored the world, as they are just out of school

I have had my teachers tell our class a lot that no one knows what is truly out in the world, until you get out there.

[vvv]

Mature thoughts of 16 year olds? I don't think so, kids under 18 should not be able to vote because they will just be immature about it and just pick anything they want even though it is a serious matter on voting because if you just kid around and people would have "voted" for the wrong person, so technically 18+ is the way to go. But not even 18, I think it should be 20, imo because still people are sooo immature these days. I mean if you want to vote for the right person it is a serious matter not a laughing, joking, kidding matter. Everything should stay high driving wise I think it should be 18 at this point because a lot of teens like to speed and that will cause people to get killed, so there ya go. No voting until you are 18+ because immature actions can lead to bad decisions.


Some damn,laws,everyone should be able to vote,last president i voted for it were Putin,

yee,and thats only why putin won,Bacouse there are under 18 teens who can vote for him too,etc in 4 years putin wont win zjuganov would,there russia is even more workless,

[Speachless]

I think it should be lowered to 15+
Most 15 year olds are smart enough to know whats going on and with the right to vote there could come some changes.
Politics were always hard and not easy to understand.
BUt maybe voting right will be for younger people 2.

[BadLT06]

I think it's a bad idea to lower the voting age, like many peopla above have said, it's just a general bad idea. I am 16, but that doesn't mean that iI am immature. Though I may not be immature, sadly most kids my age are, which constitutes the need for a higher voting age. For example, many kids around my age group wanted to vote for Obama to be president. When asked why they either said "because he is black" or "I don't know". That is a perfect example of why 16 year olds should not vote. The only reason 18 year olds have been allowed the right to vote is because 18 year olds were being shipped to vietnam to fight the war but they had no political representation.

[vvv]

I agree. I can't tell you how many 18-21 year olds I've seen get brainwashed into the whole "HOPE" and "CHANGE" thing by Obama (besides those who only voted for him because he's black), who barely know his policies at all.


if i were in US i wont vote for obama,some people says that he is a socialist and it wont be good for russia if everyone in us got job's etc like 30% of russia is job less,the elders cant work and getting the damn 200$ per month,small houses costs damn much about 1million roublers for 1room house,It were better in soviet time everyone had money to aford things,nothing were cost too much etc my dad lived in Rabat there its the richiest place in moscow,now he doesnt live there more and houses cost really much there,

So if i get a chance to vote then its be for kprf,altso 1 week to i come to russia but its bad that i isnt there in may where they votes,

and 1 week to il get to russia