The world, how did it start?

[Legit.Cow]

I've been thinking and thinking about this topic for about a year now.

Who or what created the world?
Some say god.
Who or what made god?

Who or what created the universe?
Some say The Big Bang
Ok, who or what caused the Big Bang?

I think it's all based on opinion and what your believe, what do you think?

[Nethrak]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth

That all i think

[Legit.Cow]

Sorry, I don't trust wikipedia, only because ANYONE can post/edit on there.

[Unlimited]

Honestly, it doesn't matter. It's retarded to contemplate this question because you know there are no answers and any theory is possible. Therefore, let our civilization come to the realization of this, if indeed there is any, in a natural process.

[Minilano]

The alien created us, we are just an experiment to see how long we managed to live on earth.
Everyone we believe in any god have gotten a alien probe in their ass so they think they believe in something.
But if you use high tech microscopic goggles like mine you can see them waving at you when you walk past them.
The aliens will probably destroy my memories after I told you guys the secret.

[gerges]

All I know is that something created us ..could be a power...god....what you believe in..

[Legit.Cow]

The alien created us, we are just an experiment to see how long we managed to live on earth.
Everyone we believe in any god have gotten a alien probe in their ass so they think they believe in something.
But if you use high tech microscopic goggles like mine you can see them waving at you when you walk past them.
The aliens will probably destroy my memories after I told you guys the secret.

I'm all up for trolling, but not in Intellectual Discussion, it's like really?

[frathir]

I am pretty sure, you can't travel back to the past anyway, so... Who cares? Go find out how you going to survive or something. Or how the earth is going to survive. You can worry about the past when you get old.

[Arphenion]

No just No

[splicho]

I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird.

[Wolfly]

Before god, there was bacon.

[splicho]

Before god, there was bacon.

That shows your intelligence

[Legit.Cow]

I honestly think there is no supported answer other than a religion one.

[Reapsen]

I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird.

=/.. hmmm

[Nonsense567]

Science and Religion mix together and try that.

[214sobrien]

Personally, I believe we were an experiment.

Back a million years ago, there was a civilization; at the point we are headed. On the verge of destroying the world/universe/planet they lived it. They seeded another planet, that planet be Earth, with DNA. Eventually getting to the theory that humans are evolved Apes.

[mako1]

I commanded the elements to form an atmosphere around a large rock in orbit of the sun, that would be able to harbour and sustain Life. My commands were followed and now it has become hugely populated, however no one will recognise my great power or idolise me as their God, But now you know the story you MUST Bow down to my greatness

[AwkwardDev]

I myself think that all is created by the logic we know. The elements would not be the same, nor anything we know if the gravity wasn't the exact as it is now. We are a creation of our own, and pretty much ruinning our own selves due to huge stupidity and weakly behaved soul. There's no magical power, or a third party action in our creation, everything is planty explainable just by physics and chemistry.

[Tyler2112]

Haha, half of yall sound like crack heads in my opinion
There really is no straight forward answer, there are thousands of different opinions.
I believe that God created the Heavens and the Earth.

[Nonsense567]

Buddha.

[expo]

I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird.

Was anybody around to see dinosaurs? Was anyone around to confirm everything in science? Was anyone around to see the "Big Bang"? None of the above can be proven beyond the logic of man that can easily be incorrect.

[splicho]

There are existing Bones in Museums. So i think they existed :/

[Bolvarxx]

Was anybody around to see dinosaurs? Was anyone around to confirm everything in science? Was anyone around to see the "Big Bang"? None of the above can be proven beyond the logic of man that can easily be incorrect.

I was there expo... I was there.

[Evil--(jamesdoxh)]

Ok, who or what caused the Big Bang?

The cause of the Big Bang is unknown. Big Bang Theory explains what happened to the universe after the first split second following the beginning, but does not explain the beginning itself (time=0).

There are a few science-based ideas about it, but there's no well-supported/strong theory to explain it.



Is current knowledge indicating that the total energy of our universe is zero? If the sum of all energy and mass is equalled by the sum of exotic “negative” energy and anti matter it would tie in quite well with a theory based on the random fluctuation at a quantum level which essentially says that the universe just appeared from nothing.

The universe came from nothing, and is still nothing.

Needless to say, there are a few loose ends here. For example, if we started from a random fluctuation wouldn’t there have been a need for space/time to contain the random fluctuation?

If you re in psychic you might want to check physicsforums (www.physicsforums.com)
I learned a lot of things in there.
Anyway i quoted some of the smartest minds theories but i still stand on the fact of multiply dimensions theory.
The question leads to another question, how the dimensions were in first place created ?
"God" or "religion" is the only reasonable explanation that i got.
Life is longs so i still have more to learn that can change my point of view :P
Anyway ...

[expo]

There are existing Bones in Museums. So i think they existed :/

Bones don't prove this existence of dinosaurs seeing how nobody was around to see them. We have matter that we look at and reason what they are. Other than that, it is just atoms in a shape.

Let me break this down for all the people who want to bash Christianity without having the slightest clue what the belief is or the understanding of it.

Christianity's God is an omnipotent being not of the physical world. We can't go beyond the physical world to say yes he exists or no he doesn't. He is not bound by time because time was created for man.

My personal belief is that science explains part of what is and religion part of what is. Science and religion can't explain everything, but together they do a pretty damn good job.

For those that want to bring up radical religious people, just remember, there are just as many radical secular people that you chose to ignore.

[Speachless]

I beleive god made us?

"Who made God?"

Thanks to you thinking about that question made me answer it myself:

As God is the highest being that exists and he made us this means he made him/herself (Who said god was a guy?)
Yes made himself (Telling as a him)
There is alot more going on in our lives then we think, but we simply couldn't handle them even if we would know it, we would get to scared maybe?

First there was nothing
Then there was some light
That light was God

NOT SAYING THIS HAPPENED <- for raging people

Just saying this COULD be the answer of God's existence

[Evil--(jamesdoxh)]

I beleive god made us?
1-First there was nothing
2-Then there was some light
3-That light was God


1-First there was nothing
How can you create light from nothing??
The concept is hard to think and its way more complicated that us the human minds can concept.
To solve this "puzzle" must think outside the box .

[Speachless]

1-First there was nothing
How can you create light from nothing??
The concept is hard to think and its way more complicated that us the human minds can concept.
To solve this "puzzle" must think outside the box .

Thats the whole point, that is wy God is God
He came from nowhere and dumdumdum there was God

[Evil--(jamesdoxh)]

The concept is hard to think and its way more complicated that us the human minds can concept.


Re quoting myself because i dont think that most of ac-web people are going to reply if you need to be "illuminated" go to the "experts (www.google.com)"

[Speachless]

I'm right

[Evil--(jamesdoxh)]

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[Juggle]

Bones don't prove this existence of dinosaurs seeing how nobody was around to see them. We have matter that we look at and reason what they are. Other than that, it is just atoms in a shape.

Christianity's God is an omnipotent being not of the physical world. We can't go beyond the physical world to say yes he exists or no he doesn't. He is not bound by time because time was created for man.


Well, actually, bones being there for us to see does prove their existence. You yourself use the "Atheists don't see something, therefore it can't exist," and now you're using the same reasoning?

Bones are bones, they are matter formed as bones for the animal they came from. Bones have never changed what they do. Without other animal interaction, bones are support and protection systems for the animals they reside in. This has never changed, whether you look throughout life in the past several hundred million years or the past 6000. You cannot argue the use of bones. If a bone is fossilized next to other bones that they fit with, thus making what we call a skeleton. These skeletons can be found in many different areas with similar details throughout mapped throughout geologic time. This skeleton is similar to what we can see from modern skeletons, and therefore, using the evidence above, we can correctly perceive that these animals existed unless a certain omnipotent, unphysical being wanted to give dirt more protection. This is not debatable. This is scientific fact. If you want to be technical, this is the highly supported opinion of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of scientists from multiple centuries. If that isn't enough proof to change your opinion I don't know what can.

Also, there is no evidence for God. You yourself say that God is not a physical being therefore has no evidence showing that God is there. The Big Bang theory does have evidence. Whether it is very small, debatable, and what have you, it is still more evidence than God will ever have. And thus this is why I believe it rather than God.

You might ask what is the difference between belief of bones and belief of God, and I'll tell you. Evidence. We do not claim bones are unphysical being that we must believe in because we cannot see them. We believe in bones because of a massive amount of evidence supported by thousands of scientists.

End of my cool story bro.

[expo]

1-First there was nothing
How can you create light from nothing??
The concept is hard to think and its way more complicated that us the human minds can concept.
To solve this "puzzle" must think outside the box .

Yet science says the big bang did it all. Super compressed matter decided to just magically expand. What created the super compressed matter?

Again, God isn't bound by time or matter, so him just randomly appearing is just science stuck in the box using that as a scapegoat to say God doesn't exist.

Well, actually, bones being there for us to see does prove their existence. You yourself use the "Atheists don't see something, therefore it can't exist," and now you're using the same reasoning?

Bones are bones, they are matter formed as bones for the animal they came from. Bones have never changed what they do. Without other animal interaction, bones are support and protection systems for the animals they reside in. This has never changed, whether you look throughout life in the past several hundred million years or the past 6000. You cannot argue the use of bones. If a bone is fossilized next to other bones that they fit with, thus making what we call a skeleton. These skeletons can be found in many different areas with similar details throughout mapped throughout geologic time. This skeleton is similar to what we can see from modern skeletons, and therefore, using the evidence above, we can correctly perceive that these animals existed unless a certain omnipotent, unphysical being wanted to give dirt more protection. This is not debatable. This is scientific fact. If you want to be technical, this is the highly supported opinion of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of scientists from multiple centuries. If that isn't enough proof to change your opinion I don't know what can.

Also, there is no evidence for God. You yourself say that God is not a physical being therefore has no evidence showing that God is there. The Big Bang theory does have evidence. Whether it is very small, debatable, and what have you, it is still more evidence than God will ever have. And thus this is why I believe it rather than God.

You might ask what is the difference between belief of bones and belief of God, and I'll tell you. Evidence. We do not claim bones are unphysical being that we must believe in because we cannot see them. We believe in bones because of a massive amount of evidence supported by thousands of scientists.

End of my cool story bro.

How do you know those bones just didn't change atoms to turn from something else to bones? I didn't use that, you said I did. My opinion of Atheists is that they need to see something or hear that someone else saw it so it must be true. We can't see neutrinos, but science says they exist.

Bones are bones because we say they are. Nothing makes a bone a bone. It is a piece of we call matter and that is it. We haven't been here for the millions of years when shit randomly started happening to say it did happen. We reason that it happened, we can't actually prove it beyond reason.
I can arrange legos to fit other objects, but I don't go saying that is was meant that way. We reason that it is like that, but it is just reason.

If God isn't material, he can't have evidence. Hurrpadurr. You don't even understand what Christianity says about God yet you spout of shit that you believe about it. That isn't very scientific. The Big Bang is theoretical to explain the universe, it is speculation, not evidence. That isn't debatable. What you have is reason that you chose to believe in. Unless you can actually recreate the big bang or have a record from somebody around that observed it, it technically didn't happen. Damn, that is the same way God is looked at. We haven't seen him nor have we seen the Big bang or the evolution from slime pools to humans

The real difference is reason and belief. Beyond that is plain bullshit. Bones are physical, but that is it. The bones inside of me were created from cells. I believe in matter called bones that come from confirmed sources, not speculation. We all know that because thousands upon thousands of people who say one thing must be true. Look where that got us.

[Seragath]

I never know how to respond to expo, cause he never really takes any side. He just states the obvious. I hate it! And love it.

But yeah if Athene's theory of everything is proven correct, then there is a huge hole in the big bang. What it is ? I don't know yet. Since I have trouble understanding it.

[expo]

We are just observing shit and making assumptions on what is with the current understanding of life that we have. two thousand years ago shit was way different. Now science says they are right. 2K years from now they may be wrong then the next group will say they are right.

[Minilano]

If I were a god I bet I would be a hawt one...

[Juggle]

We are just observing shit and making assumptions on what is with the current understanding of life that we have. two thousand years ago shit was way different. Now science says they are right. 2K years from now they may be wrong then the next group will say they are right.

That's because that's the closest scientists can get to right within limits of the age that they live in. With the evidence shown by technology that scientists have of that time period, that's the only way they can find out what's right. When better technology is created, we can be shown that this and this is right, rather than this and that.

Also, plenty of things haven't been debated by scientists for thousands of years. One example is that bones prove the existence of the animals they were in.

Science is right until new evidence proves it wrong. However, God has always been said as right, period. The only difference is that no one wants to try and prove him wrong. And if they do, all you say is that you can't prove him wrong because he doesn't exist as a physical being or some other type of protection.

If people find a major flaw to God all people who believe in him say is basically "oh well you can't say that," and that's that.

We can't prove God wrong because the things that are said about him are so much based off of opinion and fallacy that it has no proof against it.

With science, at least new things are found out year after year to try and get us to the actual correct meaning of something. God has been the same way for centuries, with no one using or trying to find out new facts.

[cyberbritt]

you cant prove that god exist or not. so its based on opinions

[Wolfly]

you cant prove that god exist or not. so its based on opinions

It's good intellectual exercise.

[Nonsense567]

Time is a human concept. Look at this. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKiIFEqRM-RRO0e_CXtgcQiQ4ZS9q72h5QlT7xZ8DaI4BBz_USIg Weird.

[Juggle]

you cant prove that god exist or not. so its based on opinions

Simply proved my point.

[Tyler2112]

Splicho's reasoning:
"I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird"

First of all, the bible is meant to tell you what you NEED to know, maybe God doesnt think it is necessary to have something about dinosaurs put in the bible. Also, I believe that some of the stories in the bible are not necessarily literal in the term of what happened. I belive the basis of the stories are true but some of the facts are left out or possibly exaggerated because, God did not create the bible, people over years and years made it. Man is not always accurate so it is easy to say that non-technological people were inaccurate in their stories, or maybe God did not see the need of in-depth explaination of certain things.

Also, pretty soon this discussion will start to acquire useless comments like, in the beggining there was bacon... pointless? You would have to have pigs to have bacon so that isnt possible.

Also, splicho, its called faith, however, there is proof that some of the stories of the bible are true. So I believe God is real.

[expo]

That's because that's the closest scientists can get to right within limits of the age that they live in. With the evidence shown by technology that scientists have of that time period, that's the only way they can find out what's right. When better technology is created, we can be shown that this and this is right, rather than this and that.

Also, plenty of things haven't been debated by scientists for thousands of years. One example is that bones prove the existence of the animals they were in.

Science is right until new evidence proves it wrong. However, God has always been said as right, period. The only difference is that no one wants to try and prove him wrong. And if they do, all you say is that you can't prove him wrong because he doesn't exist as a physical being or some other type of protection.

If people find a major flaw to God all people who believe in him say is basically "oh well you can't say that," and that's that.

We can't prove God wrong because the things that are said about him are so much based off of opinion and fallacy that it has no proof against it.

With science, at least new things are found out year after year to try and get us to the actual correct meaning of something. God has been the same way for centuries, with no one using or trying to find out new facts.

Based on what science says about religion, they shoot themselves in the foot. They can only reason what happened with the matter they gather. If there was nobody around back then to verify it, it is just speculation. Science is observation and conclusion, not absolute fact. You don't even understand that. Better technology can't go back in time and watch the events.

Plenty of things haven't been debated because plenty of religious groups are more tolerant of others' beliefs while science tries to make everyone conform to themselves.

"Science is right until new evidence proves it wrong." Holy shit, you just used an argument that Christianity uses yet you refute the Christian argument. "The only difference is that no one wants to try and prove him wrong." Really, nobody is trying to prove him wrong? How about you trying to prove he doesn't exist? Contradicting yourself isn't helping you.

Let me toss this in; how do you know we aren't in the Matrix and this is simulated reality? How can you tell the difference?

If it was based on fallacy, you would be able to prove it. But you can't. It is opinion that he doesn't exist. We can't move outside the realm of matter to know what else exists. Man has only seen pictures of everything else beyond the distance of the moon.

With science, we find more matter, we observer it, we come up with reasons why it is. It is just speculation.

[Seragath]

Splicho's reasoning:
"I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird"

First of all, the bible is meant to tell you what you NEED to know, maybe God doesnt think it is necessary to have something about dinosaurs put in the bible. Also, I believe that some of the stories in the bible are not necessarily literal in the term of what happened. I belive the basis of the stories are true but some of the facts are left out or possibly exaggerated because, God did not create the bible, people over years and years made it. Man is not always accurate so it is easy to say that non-technological people were inaccurate in their stories, or maybe God did not see the need of in-depth explaination of certain things.

Also, pretty soon this discussion will start to acquire useless comments like, in the beggining there was bacon... pointless? You would have to have pigs to have bacon so that isnt possible.

Also, splicho, its called faith, however, there is proof that some of the stories of the bible are true. So I believe God is real.

This is just your own opinion, but you say that the bible only tells you what you NEED to know. Why do you say that ? How do you know that ? Cause I don't.

[Difer]

"The past is like a game of poker where all the players constantly are bluffing each other to make people think they have the best hand" - Difer

[Sykke]

The universe always existed. There is no such thing as the beginning of time, or even "time" in general. Time is just a unit of measurement to mark events.

"God" is nothing more than a fairy tale. The social standard in most places is Christianity and that's why it's so widely believed. Most of you were grown up taught to believe in that and that it was "true facts" told to you when you were a kid that carried on throughout your life.

If you lived in a different era and in a different place, like say... Greece. The social standard for then was believing in Zeus and whatnot. That was what that whole area believed and that's what the standard was.

Anyways, you believing in this Christian "God" is the exact same thing as believing in Zeus.

[Shoop Da Whoop]

It's impossible for there to be nothing. There must always be something. You can always describe something, even the emptiness of a jar, of space, etc.

So saying "GOD CAME FROM NOTHING" or "LIGHT CAME FROM NOTHING" is invalid. Nothingness is a concept, it's impossible to exist. There will always be some form of matter. Therefore, I believe there has been and always will be "something".

INB4 "NOTHINGNESS" exists : http://express.howstuffworks.com/mb-nothing.htm

[marijnz]

God shaped the world. Period.

[Bjerkeng]

This is just messing with my mind. Tbh when u think about it.. this world is nothing... Nothing is nothing and the universe is nothing.. Think deeply about how it is to be dead forever without anything happenign everything is gone. it's nothing..

[KingPanda]

Who made everything?
Who made god?
Who made the world?
Who made that awesome pizza's?
WHO!?

I leik pizza's :P

[Ailurus]

Alright, let me abord several possibilities then.

First, nothing comes out of nothing. As Lavoiser said: "Nothing is created, nothing is destroyed, everything is transformed."; therefor, the simple act of the start of the universe was the transformation of something that already existed to what we have now.

Now theres 2 major questions here:
- What was the thing that already existed?
- How did that thing transformed itself?

Base asnwers:
- What before had to exist was some type of high concentration of energy.
- That concentration was so high, and the force involved so enormous that the Big Bang was caused and the universe created from that light.

If we go by catholic-like religion:
- The thing that first existed was God.
- On first day he made the light and by consequence the shadows. On the second he separated the sea that was in the skys (rain) from the one at the surface. On the third day, God made the land and planted alot of plants and trees. And the funny part is, that after all the above, only in the FOURTH day he made the Sun, the Moon, and ALL the Stars which means he first makes the Earth and only then makes the Universe. Just this first text of the bible makes no sense!

Filosophical God:
- A high source of energy was what always existed. This energy source is itself and is cause of itself. And attention to the fact that time only started after the big bang.
- Basicly the same as the base answer said above. It concentrated to a point where it was beyong limits and the Big Bang was produced. As its cause of itself, its possible it auto-reproduces, and might be possible its still being produced, in a central zone of the universe around which all spins. Who knows, it may even be what we call of dark energy that pushes the universe more and more far from its center.

The never-endless universe:
- What first existed was another universe which began to contract due to the overcome of gravity over the black energy.
- With that contraction, a new Big Bang was produzed and another so will be in a few hundreds of bilions after that.

The white holes:
- What existed was another universe in which, due to a clash of huge masses and energys, possibily from super-star or from two or more black holes in route of collision caused a white hole which is nothing more then the exact opposite of a black hole.
- While the black hole swallows everything, the white hole "pukes" everything out, a type of continuous big bang until a certain duraction (just as black holes don't last for ever). This is a Stephen Hawking theory.

And theres far more, the point remains that theres so many possibilities its far uncertain to know for sure whats the real one, through we can roll out the one of the catholic god. In my personal opinion, I go more for the options of the Filosophical God and of the White Holes, but still uncertain in which one, some a hybrid of both.

We will never know for sure, for its still beyond our reach the discovery of a way to go back in time, and what we know for sure is its impossibul we may go back to a time when there was no time (to before the start of time, to before of the Big Bang). But then again, was time only created after the Big Bang?
Lets time pass, and itself show the answer. If not, lets look ahead and not behind, for we can't see the start and we will never live to see the end.

[Ferguson]

No one knows. People can say they know how it started but no one will ever know.

[FuSSioN™]

It was the small bang.

[Rivkah]

Why not expand to how the universe started? Still my favorite topic and will probably always be: How did everything begin and what if there was NOTHING? I have had many sleepless nights due to this unanswerable question. How did the universe begin..things aren't just there, they become formed, right? But, then how was the very first thing ever formed? Just try thinking on how it would of started and/or how their would be nothing..Which is pretty much impossible due to the fact that when there would be nothing, not even conciousness, how would you think about it?..

Much less be able to know it or comprehend it. Especially since according to "the laws of physics" matter is capable of being neither created or destroyed, how was everything created in the first place? Even tho there would of been no "physics"..then, so there might not even be the concept of time since it is based upon relativity and you can't be relative to nothing.. Oh, last thing..What is at the edge of the universe..do you just simply..not exist? Is it like our magical invisible ceilings and such inside our little games?

[Baked]

I'll give you a hint of how people came to be:

http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/giggity-giggity-giggity-78490.jpg



But yeah, this is what I feel:

Honestly, it doesn't matter. It's retarded to contemplate this question because you know there are no answers and any theory is possible. Therefore, let our civilization come to the realization of this, if indeed there is any, in a natural process.

[Rivkah]

I'll give you a hint of how people came to be:

http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/giggity-giggity-giggity-78490.jpg



But yeah, this is what I feel:
Hell, what I think is we should literally just complete mass-suicide. No more love, thoughts, etc...But also: No more pain, suffering, loss (well other than the mass-suicide). [May be pessimistic] But, there is no great reason for our life..It's just there like everything else..Yes, Mass-Suicide may be extreme..But, A: It will happen eventually due to natural events or B: It will happen eventually due to us killing each other in a massive war..

[pakman123]

This is a very interesting topic. Thank you for the good reading everyone!

[hqtitan]

I just fucking hate the theory from God.
Nobody saw him once... Blabla nobody knows how he looks like.
So why he should exist? They havn't any proof.
Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Thats weird.

I know this is an old post, but no one has countered it yet and I feel like it needs to be countered. Since these questions refer to the Bible and ask questions about the Bible, I will refer to the Bible to answer them. Just because I am referring to the Bible does not automatically make these answers false.

Ehh in the bible says, God created Animals etc.. but there was nothing with "Dinosaurs".. Where did they come from ?

The book of Genesis Chapter 1 Verse 24:
And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.

The Bible says that God created all animals that walked the Earth, those that walk the Earth during our present time, and those that have since become extinct. Dinosaurs are an animal that walked the Earth, so this verse shows that, according to the Bible, God made them.

Same with Adam and Eva. It says they were the first persons on the Earth but hey... they borned two sons, the one Killed the other, so one son fucked his mum then ?

Yes, Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth, created by God (according to the Bible, of course). Cain was jealous of Abel (Cain and Abel were the first two sons). After Cain had been exiled by God himself, Adam and Eve had another son, Seth. The Old Testament does not mention the female children, because they weren't seen as important because family lines were traced through the male. This means that there were other females. This also means that Cain and Seth would have had sex with one of their sisters to carry on the production of the human race. This isn't entirely unexpected, is it? Even if humans evolved from some other animal, the first humans would have had sex with their close relatives to carry on the production of the race. So that means that your argument would be invalid.

[Rivkah]

Mhms, either by evolutionary standards or the bible. We would of had to of "in-mated" since we obviously..multiplied and created further generations.. P.S. Who said that these people who wrote the bible weren't just a bunch of mentally deranged or drugged maniacs?