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Hex00010
12-21-2010, 02:03 PM
I've Watched this video litterly over 20+ times in a row and it makes me so sad to watch this and see this happening right now in our country.
This puts a whole new meaning on my thoughts about the USA Government and there Decisions on life
Watch the video over and over and you will see hopefully where i am coming from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W__Lhu0WAo&feature=player_embedded
AwkwardDev
12-21-2010, 02:30 PM
If it's required to stop them, I only hope to see some true justice at least. I'm an European, but my father it is Arab. I don't like Arabians either, but it's just terrible to see so many dying in the cause of more Oil for USA, to continue to "lead" the world, as they think they do. In fact all of this should have been expected ... Americans are those whose killed the nation on a whole two new continents to obtain their place now, the Indians have been murdered the same way, the Arabs are now. I only can't see why nobody have made this thought earlier, it's very simple if you know at least a little bit of history and you know the facts.
Oh great, more conspiracy theories and peoples' opinions. This is for intellectual discussion only.
Hex00010
12-21-2010, 04:17 PM
That is all to true Awkward Dev i couldnt agree more i can understand everything you mean.
And it sucks because our Government is all to fucked up in so many ways.
our government mock's The Deceleration Of Independence we the people can no longer tell the government how we feel about what we are doing to the world Deep down inside We the People are the terrorist in some way.
And unfortunately America will never get better the way our system is now.
AwkwardDev
12-21-2010, 05:10 PM
Indeed, I didn't mention to harm or say harmful word towards american people, I myself have amazing friends from there. Unfortunately it is not just the goverments in USA or Bulgaria, Russia or even Iraq ... we the normal people allowed those people to lead us, whenever we understand that actually the country, the ones taking decisions are actually us, then we will have progress furtherly and will stop this madness, but there's more than the half people living, lied by the media that is spreading shit every second.
Bolvarxx
12-21-2010, 05:36 PM
Sounds like a new Civil War is going to start in a couple of years :3
Gojen
12-22-2010, 04:06 PM
This country fucking sucks anyway. People don't hate us for our freedoms, and they don't hate us for the reasons that annoying cunt in the video listed. They outright hate us because they should, the government is full of retards, we have a habit of making our allies into enemies for stupid reasons.
Remember how Russia and the USA fought together in both world wars? The the Cold War happened and Russia hates us, we also helped middle-eastern countries defend against the Russian invasion back in the 80's ans oh shit, they all hate us now. I don't agree with the video but anyone who thinks the USA isn't guilty of being stupid should be added to the depopulation list.
This country fucking sucks anyway. People don't hate us for our freedoms, and they don't hate us for the reasons that annoying cunt in the video listed. They outright hate us because they should, the government is full of retards, we have a habit of making our allies into enemies for stupid reasons.
Remember how Russia and the USA fought together in both world wars? The the Cold War happened and Russia hates us, we also helped middle-eastern countries defend against the Russian invasion back in the 80's ans oh shit, they all hate us now. I don't agree with the video but anyone who thinks the USA isn't guilty of being stupid should be added to the depopulation list.
Everyone hates the guys who want to help everyone.
frathir
12-22-2010, 06:49 PM
You are naive, but yet right. Your gov goes too far in the name of "democracy". But about the "un-armed victims" down in the middle east, i wont agree with you neither with anyone sharing that black/white opinion. The so called "innocent victims" of this war, are not always as innocent as they look. They might look innocent, and they might not carry anything the day you are filming them. There is a lot of information that you do not know. On the human hand, choose who to lose his life: You or someone else. I know that most ppl will always say that they will find a peaceful solution, but the fact is that you WILL shoot first if a "maybe" half brainwashed terrorist is standing in front of you. Unarmed or not. And you must not forget, USA is going forward down there, and you must not forget how it was before USA got there. Argue about our soldiers is wrong. They are fighting people who aim for as many innocent victims they can find. Remember twin towers? The fact that they are patrolling areas were every corner, every house, could be hideout for a well prepared terrorist. That every man, woman or even kid could be carrying a big pack of c4, only to blow up when close enough. That the enemies they are fighting wants to die, and their last wish is to take you with them. You cannot deny the fact, that this war is not a normal war. This war is a "terror" war.
But what the gov in usa is doing is another thing. I have never actually "agreed" with the way things work over at you, and i love laughing at you, watching "the daily show" :P. I do not agree with you guys about USA way of acting IN the war. I believe that everything has it's reason, and the reason they are down there are to help the people. You guys know that USA is deciding, when to pull out of there, in june (or july, correct me if im wrong)?
I hope they out of there, and put an end to this discussion and "whining". Because I agree in the way USA acts down there, afterall, shooting first is not always bad. You rather want the military back here, fighting them as soon they cross the borders? I think not.
oh and a good comment I read, for the video:
This are the REAL FACTS :
1.) Since the beginning of the ISLAM. Muslims have in someway engaged in Terrorism against other NON-MUSLIM Nations, such as Muslim bombings in the U.K, Spain, and France. Are these Nations also Terrorists ?
2.) Since the 80's Muslim Nations have also engaged in bombings against Americans. Anyone forgot why the Gulf & Iraq-Afghanistan Wars started ?
3.) Every bit of Oil Americans obtain is PAID FOR. We have not invaded your third world Nations for oil.
~Frathir
AwkwardDev
12-22-2010, 06:55 PM
Frathir, sorry to say it, but this "good" comment is full of bullshit and lies. This guy whose wrote it knows nothing of Islam and Muslims to bother to speak for them. The thing that USA wants to "help" everywhere is not right statement, almost none of you knows what goes behind the scenes, 'cause everyone is blinded with lies and effects.
frathir
12-22-2010, 07:27 PM
Frathir, sorry to say it, but this "good" comment is full of bullshit and lies. This guy whose wrote it knows nothing of Islam and Muslims to bother to speak for them. The thing that USA wants to "help" everywhere is not right statement, almost none of you knows what goes behind the scenes, 'cause everyone is blinded with lies and effects.
True dat. As i said, i do not like the gov, but I agree in the way they act down there. Whenever war was right or not right, we wont know unless someone goes back and change the past. Then we'll see what had happened... Maybe everyone would live in peace, with no fighting. Maybe terrorists would be controlling the countries down there, and fight there own war? Maybe half of New York blowed away?
The decision to go to war was both wrong and right, you can say it was wrong. But i wont EVER agree, unless you show me what had happened.
The pacifist would say war is the worst solution we could have made. But a realist would know, that if we do not go to their country and end the treat, chances that will blow up another tower, or more train stations is high. Again, who wants to shoot last?
Sometimes I think that helping them, wasn't because of USA's generosity, but because of their fear...
~Frathir
Gojen
12-22-2010, 07:56 PM
Everyone hates the guys who want to help everyone.
The US Government helping anyone but themselves is the same as the sun turning purple and every other color or the visible spectrum every few seconds. It just doesn't happen the thought of it just sounds absurd.
frathir
12-22-2010, 08:46 PM
The US Government helping anyone but themselves is the same as the sun turning purple and every other color or the visible spectrum every few seconds. It just doesn't happen the thought of it just sounds absurd.
I think the US Government helps not only themselves.
Frathir, sorry to say it, but this "good" comment is full of bullshit and lies. This guy whose wrote it knows nothing of Islam and Muslims to bother to speak for them. The thing that USA wants to "help" everywhere is not right statement, almost none of you knows what goes behind the scenes, 'cause everyone is blinded with lies and effects.
You know that can be turned around against you since it is completely based on bias and persona opinions,
The US Government helping anyone but themselves is the same as the sun turning purple and every other color or the visible spectrum every few seconds. It just doesn't happen the thought of it just sounds absurd.
So what do you call the billions being set across the world and current legislation giving aliens(the legal term) the ability to pay for school over their own citizens? Guess what, the US isn't some big bad evil monster that wants to screw over the world. If you think that, you don't understand a damn thing about the US government.
You know that can be turned around against you since it is completely based on bias and persona opinions,
So what do you call the billions being set across the world and current legislation giving aliens(the legal term) the ability to pay for school over their own citizens? Guess what, the US isn't some big bad evil monster that wants to screw over the world. If you think that, you don't understand a damn thing about the US government.
US have killed thousands,of people bacouse of thier ''democracy'' now i want to ask you did USSR fly to other countries bomb them kill 500.000 take all thier resouces and then call it democracy i guess no. now what us does? Bombed iraq killed thousands of civilians and still keep killing civilians,and what democracy theres in iraq?they cant even find out to make a Parliament. and well afghanistan?over 50% of civilians is tired of US and Nato and want them out of the country,so lets make some democracy and let the 50% or more kick US and nato out of Afghanistan,but ofc they cant or US finds some new reason to stay and bomb them all to hell.
So well thats the solution, Bomb the White House so we can get all the democrats and republicans out.
and let people make some damn freaking parties like in EU and other countries,
US political system is almost the same as Chinas political system,
china got 1 party US got 2. and theres no Ideology or anything different with the 2 parties in US so its basicly a Single-party state.
US have killed thousands,of people bacouse of thier ''democracy'' now i want to ask you did USSR fly to other countries bomb them kill 500.000 take all thier resouces and then call it democracy i guess no. now what us does? Bombed iraq killed thousands of civilians and still keep killing civilians,and what democracy theres in iraq?they cant even find out to make a Parliament. and well afghanistan?over 50% of civilians is tired of US and Nato and want them out of the country,so lets make some democracy and let the 50% or more kick US and nato out of Afghanistan,but ofc they cant or US finds some new reason to stay and bomb them all to hell.
So well thats the solution, Bomb the White House so we can get all the democrats and republicans out.
and let people make some damn freaking parties like in EU and other countries,
US political system is almost the same as Chinas political system,
china got 1 party US got 2. and theres no Ideology or anything different with the 2 parties in US so its basicly a Single-party state.
I forgot our resident historian, government annalist, and international expert, vvv. Please tell us, what makes the world tick?
frathir
12-22-2010, 09:47 PM
US have killed thousands,of people bacouse of thier ''democracy'' now i want to ask you did USSR fly to other countries bomb them kill 500.000 take all thier resouces and then call it democracy i guess no. now what us does? Bombed iraq killed thousands of civilians and still keep killing civilians,and what democracy theres in iraq?they cant even find out to make a Parliament. and well afghanistan?over 50% of civilians is tired of US and Nato and want them out of the country,so lets make some democracy and let the 50% or more kick US and nato out of Afghanistan,but ofc they cant or US finds some new reason to stay and bomb them all to hell.
So well thats the solution, Bomb the White House so we can get all the democrats and republicans out.
and let people make some damn freaking parties like in EU and other countries,
US political system is almost the same as Chinas political system,
china got 1 party US got 2. and theres no Ideology or anything different with the 2 parties in US so its basicly a Single-party state.
1: Bombing someone because they bombed 500.000, makes you so much better ;D (which is not true btw, as americans are fighting the bombers aka terrorists)
2: China has a dictator, at least last time I checked. And if you think USA is bad then don't bring China, cuz they PWN USA to do the / Care, even about themselves.
3: Were are you from? USA?
I forgot our resident historian, government annalist, and international expert, vvv. Please tell us, what makes the world tick?
lol'd
3: Were are you from? USA?
He is from [russian accent]Mother Russia[/russian accent].
While we are at it, lets point out all the atrocities of almost every other nation in the history of the world, shall we?
AwkwardDev
12-22-2010, 09:54 PM
True dat. As i said, i do not like the gov, but I agree in the way they act down there. Whenever war was right or not right, we wont know unless someone goes back and change the past. Then we'll see what had happened... Maybe everyone would live in peace, with no fighting. Maybe terrorists would be controlling the countries down there, and fight there own war? Maybe half of New York blowed away?
The decision to go to war was both wrong and right, you can say it was wrong. But i wont EVER agree, unless you show me what had happened.
The pacifist would say war is the worst solution we could have made. But a realist would know, that if we do not go to their country and end the treat, chances that will blow up another tower, or more train stations is high. Again, who wants to shoot last?
Sometimes I think that helping them, wasn't because of USA's generosity, but because of their fear...
~Frathir
You totally mis-understood the whole shit ... None is talking about the war, if there will be war, sure let it be. But we're talking about killing innocent citizens, people that are in no way involved into this job, or the war itself. That's the difference between War and Genocide. In the war, the soldiers are killing themselves, and the most powerful ones, of the most powerful country wins, in the genocide the most powerful soldiers and the whole army of the one country is focusing on killing everything that is a human, cat, dog, or whatever that is living in the cities of their enemies. The war ends with win, the genocide ends with blood, bones and desolace.
As I said, I don't like the both sides of this war, but I don't look forward only this war, I look forward everything the USA have done.
I know you're on the age of 14, at that age you should already be knowing when America continent was found, and you should know enough how it was taken from the Indians, as I said above, they have killed a whole nation on two whole continents the same way they are killing the Arabs now. Who's gonna be next? Ohh wait, they also got a part of Asia, maybe the Russians are next, or perhaps Europe?
I won't make more "false" statements to people held to these forums, and people that can't make a proper discussion, our little argument here will not change anything, nor your thoughts about USA, nor it will help the Arabs, or the world to understand what's going on. Hence it's pointless.
This last paragraph is not mentioned to only Frathir.
You know that can be turned around against you since it is completely based on bias and persona opinions,
So what do you call the billions being set across the world and current legislation giving aliens(the legal term) the ability to pay for school over their own citizens? Guess what, the US isn't some big bad evil monster that wants to screw over the world. If you think that, you don't understand a damn thing about the US government.
The government of USA is changing from time to time, we know that in all countries there's a positive parts of it, and negative parts of it. Obviously the balance in between is not so well, and the one is taking over from time to time. I only hope it makes sense for your so straight character.
A part of what I wrote in my post you quoted can indeed be turned against me, but you can't say what I know about the Arabs and what you know, nor anybody else.
Last I checked, people who proclaimed they were Muslim hijacked planes and flew them into buildings containing innocent people that just so happened to work around the world. I'd love to see how this is ok, but killing "innocent" lives abroad is bad.
Just as a side note, what if the Native American Indians drove out other native people? And the British forced people to want to come to the New World because of persecution. This has been going on for a long time and now you want to call it out as bad?
The whole concept of this thread is based on opinions. Why it is even here, I have no idea. But please don't say that it was a bunch of facts because you'd be lying to yourself.
frathir
12-22-2010, 10:12 PM
You totally mis-understood the whole shit ... None is talking about the war, if there will be war, sure let it be. But we're talking about killing innocent citizens, people that are in no way involved into this job, or the war itself. That's the difference between War and Genocide. In the war, the soldiers are killing themselves, and the most powerful ones, of the most powerful country wins, in the genocide the most powerful soldiers and the whole army of the one country is focusing on killing everything that is a human, cat, dog, or whatever that is living in the cities of their enemies. The war ends with win, the genocide ends with blood, bones and desolace.
As I said, I don't like the both sides of this war, but I don't look forward only this war, I look forward everything the USA have done.
I know you're on the age of 14, at that age you should already be knowing when America continent was found, and you should know enough how it was taken from the Indians, as I said above, they have killed a whole nation on two whole continents the same way they are killing the Arabs now. Who's gonna be next? Ohh wait, they also got a part of Asia, maybe the Russians are next, or perhaps Europe?
I won't make more "false" statements to people held to these forums, and people that can't make a proper discussion, our little argument here will not change anything, nor your thoughts about USA, nor it will help the Arabs, or the world to understand what's going on. Hence it's pointless.
This last paragraph is not mentioned to only Frathir.
America was first explored by Vikings.
Indian slaughter was bad, yes.
But I don't think USA is killing innocent people just. And on a more serious note: why send soldiers down there, to risk death, when you can nuke them? They ain't down there to kill. Are we talking about two different topics? I am down in the middle eastern in a terror war.
Believe me when I say: "USA is helping"
Despite the reasons to help, I am nearly 100% sure, that they are helping.
And btw, they are gonna pull out of there soon... so.
~Frathir
Gojen
12-22-2010, 10:16 PM
So what do you call the billions being set across the world and current legislation giving aliens(the legal term) the ability to pay for school over their own citizens? Guess what, the US isn't some big bad evil monster that wants to screw over the world. If you think that, you don't understand a damn thing about the US government.
I see it as a smart move from a business standpoint, just as legalizing currently illegal narcotics. We'd make billions from taxing Marijuana, cigarettes and alcohol bring it a ton of money, not only could you stop spending money trying to get rid of it, you'd recoup the losses and make some back. By allowing non-citizens to spend money here openly and giving to the government we make that much more.
I don't see the US as out for global domination which is one reason I highly disagree with that video, but some motivations are misguided and some actions make me wonder what the hell they must've been thinking. The country isn't all bad, so my fault if my previous posts came off that way, but the government could use a bit of a shape up.
dfighter
12-22-2010, 10:21 PM
While we are at it, lets point out all the atrocities of almost every other nation in the history of the world, shall we?
So basically you are again saying that it's OK to commit atrocities as long as others have done so too, right?
Don't you think it makes you just as bad then?
Like remember a group of British settlers committed treason, rose up against the empire and created a new country.
Now that country is basically the 21st century version of what they rose up against.
America was first explored by Vikings.
Indian slaughter was bad, yes.
But I don't think USA is killing innocent people just. And on a more serious note: why send soldiers down there, to risk death, when you can nuke them? They ain't down there to kill. Are we talking about two different topics? I am down in the middle eastern in a terror war.
Believe me when I say: "USA is helping"
Despite the reasons to help, I am nearly 100% sure, that they are helping.
And btw, they are gonna pull out of there soon... so.
~Frathir
You readed that in the news?
well first.
They say that Denmark may leave Afghanistan in 2014 they didnt say anything about US,
2nd what a dane says about US is crap,il rather call Danes americans bcs of that much you love the Americans.
frathir
12-22-2010, 10:32 PM
You readed that in the news?
well first.
They say that Denmark may leave Afghanistan in 2014 they didnt say anything about US,
2nd what a dane says about US is crap,il rather call Danes americans bcs of that much you love the Americans.
Denmark was talking about leaving next year, I am pretty sure.
But do you got a problem with Denmark? O.o It sounds like you do and it's pretty offending...
And why is what a dane say about USA = crap? And why are we Americans? And I do not really "love" America. :S
lulzor m8 wth
~Frathir
AwkwardDev
12-22-2010, 10:45 PM
Last I checked, people who proclaimed they were Muslim hijacked planes and flew them into buildings containing innocent people that just so happened to work around the world. I'd love to see how this is ok, but killing "innocent" lives abroad is bad.
Just as a side note, what if the Native American Indians drove out other native people? And the British forced people to want to come to the New World because of persecution. This has been going on for a long time and now you want to call it out as bad?
The whole concept of this thread is based on opinions. Why it is even here, I have no idea. But please don't say that it was a bunch of facts because you'd be lying to yourself.
You're pointless here, just stop posting, whatever I write here, or anybody that you dislike their opinion will be taken under your bad words, you're a one side person, even didn't got all of what I said, again.
America was first explored by Vikings.
Indian slaughter was bad, yes.
But I don't think USA is killing innocent people just. And on a more serious note: why send soldiers down there, to risk death, when you can nuke them? They ain't down there to kill. Are we talking about two different topics? I am down in the middle eastern in a terror war.
Believe me when I say: "USA is helping"
Despite the reasons to help, I am nearly 100% sure, that they are helping.
And btw, they are gonna pull out of there soon... so.
~Frathir
Tell me little boy, tell me what you know about the Muslim people? Do you honestly believe in your bullshit that a kid, or woman will go to a building with a bunch of C4 just to explode there and ruin the world? Wait are you yet watching Mikey Mouse??
Dude, we are all enough evoluated humans, what the human is fighting for is what the tiger is fighting for. For food, honor, glory and happiness. None of the Arabs would go and kill himself for the sake to ruin the world, stop being a one sided person, open your eyes and skip the religions. Muslims are the same as you are, as I am, as Expo is, would you go to kill yourself in a building if the country in which building have killed all your family? Have murdered the citizens in your city, have destroyed your country, and have spit on your religion, which was carefully developed from thousands of years to keep the people going further. Now you can't answer me 'cause you can't understand me. But trust me, you would do just the same when you feel all the pain in your tiny soul.
I am here to speak for the sake of this mis-understanding, for the sake of the bad things USA have done, I don't speak about the citizens of USA or anybody that personal.
I see it as a smart move from a business standpoint, just as legalizing currently illegal narcotics. We'd make billions from taxing Marijuana, cigarettes and alcohol bring it a ton of money, not only could you stop spending money trying to get rid of it, you'd recoup the losses and make some back. By allowing non-citizens to spend money here openly and giving to the government we make that much more.
I don't see the US as out for global domination which is one reason I highly disagree with that video, but some motivations are misguided and some actions make me wonder what the hell they must've been thinking. The country isn't all bad, so my fault if my previous posts came off that way, but the government could use a bit of a shape up.
They would just evade the taxing process by continuing what they are doing now.
I agree, every government can improve.
So basically you are again saying that it's OK to commit atrocities as long as others have done so too, right?
Don't you think it makes you just as bad then?
Like remember a group of British settlers committed treason, rose up against the empire and created a new country.
Now that country is basically the 21st century version of what they rose up against.
I don't think I said that. I said it has been done throughout history and morons in this thread shouldn't treat it like it is something that never happened before.
I do like the irony in that. But remember, we are creatures of habit and we continually make the mistakes over and over again. You can thank liberalism for that this time.
You're pointless here, just stop posting, whatever I write here, or anybody that you dislike their opinion will be taken under your bad words, you're a one side person, even didn't got all of what I said, again.
I'm one sided? Pot calling the kettle black. I'm pointless? Guess you didn't understand my posts or refused to read them through. How about you post coherent, intellectual-level comments before you tell me to stop posting intelligent comments? You just made one long, comment-filled sentence. Then you bash me with words. Seems like you are a hypocrite. I have the right to dislike opinions of others as much as you do. You seem to dislike me doing so and dislike my opinions which further enforce the fact that you are a hypocrite. Again, this is Intellectual Discussion. Make something intellectual in your posts.
dfighter
12-23-2010, 04:37 AM
I don't think I said that. I said it has been done throughout history and morons in this thread shouldn't treat it like it is something that never happened before.
I do like the irony in that. But remember, we are creatures of habit and we continually make the mistakes over and over again. You can thank liberalism for that this time.
It definitely sounded like that.
I am not sure how the "liberals" are solely responsible.
For example did "liberals" create Gitmo? Did they invade other countries under false pretense ( OMG WMDs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCWJvRxVJ4 )
Then tried to make the American people believe ( partially successfully ) that you are fighting terrorism over there ( granted there is *some* truth in that, but again the devil is in the details ).
Abu Grhaib anyone? Why do I get the feeling that those soldiers would vote republican?
Oh and wasn't Rummy who sold ( granted he only executed it ) weapons to both Iraq and Iran when they were at war? :O
Then you wonder why the World hates you....
Granted I don't like your "liberals" either at all. They are pussies, not willing to stand up for what they believe in. Practically they commit election fraud when they promise anything, since later they won't stand up for it when needed. For example look at lolbama. He practically lied down for the republicans...
Keeping up tax cuts for the richest people in your country, when your state debt is in the trillions...
We live is a dirty world. The US isn't the only country with ugly truths.
dfighter
12-23-2010, 04:48 AM
We live is a dirty world. The US isn't the only country with ugly truths.
That we can agree on, but still your country tries to make itself look like the white knight of the world in shiny armor, defending "freedom".
Yet you can't even keep your own citizenry free.
Should I again quote Patrick Henry?
That we can agree on, but still your country tries to make itself look like the white knight of the world in shiny armor, defending "freedom".
Yet you can't even keep your own citizenry free.
Should I again quote Patrick Henry?
That is what every country does.
dfighter
12-23-2010, 05:00 AM
That is what every country does.
Oh really.
Would you mind naming 1 other country that goes overseas to start wars to spread "freedom"?
Not talking about history. Talking about present day.
Oh really.
Would you mind naming 1 other country that goes overseas to start wars to spread "freedom"?
Not talking about history. Talking about present day.
So it was ok to do it because it was in the past?
dfighter
12-23-2010, 05:20 AM
So it was ok to do it because it was in the past?
Obviously not.
For example my country basically started WWI, then in WWII we were on the NAZI's side. Although granted we didn't collaborate in the jewish holocaust until we were occupied, but still just being on their side is something I despise my country's past for..
Obviously not.
For example my country basically started WWI, then in WWII we were on the NAZI's side. Although granted we didn't collaborate in the jewish holocaust until we were occupied, but still just being on their side is something I despise my country's past for..
So why point the finger so harshly like it hasn't been done before?
dfighter
12-23-2010, 05:26 AM
So why point the finger so harshly like it hasn't been done before?
I am not. However, the fact that others have committed atrocities, and that other countries are dirty is no excuse for being dirty yourself. That's all I am saying ^^
Especially not when you want to play worldpolice and act like you were some protector of freedom ( yada yada ).
frathir
12-23-2010, 07:23 AM
You're pointless here, just stop posting, whatever I write here, or anybody that you dislike their opinion will be taken under your bad words, you're a one side person, even didn't got all of what I said, again.
Tell me little boy, tell me what you know about the Muslim people? Do you honestly believe in your bullshit that a kid, or woman will go to a building with a bunch of C4 just to explode there and ruin the world? Wait are you yet watching Mikey Mouse??
Dude, we are all enough evoluated humans, what the human is fighting for is what the tiger is fighting for. For food, honor, glory and happiness. None of the Arabs would go and kill himself for the sake to ruin the world, stop being a one sided person, open your eyes and skip the religions. Muslims are the same as you are, as I am, as Expo is, would you go to kill yourself in a building if the country in which building have killed all your family? Have murdered the citizens in your city, have destroyed your country, and have spit on your religion, which was carefully developed from thousands of years to keep the people going further. Now you can't answer me 'cause you can't understand me. But trust me, you would do just the same when you feel all the pain in your tiny soul.
I am here to speak for the sake of this mis-understanding, for the sake of the bad things USA have done, I don't speak about the citizens of USA or anybody that personal.
About my "bullsh*t" that a kid or a woman would make a c4. Dude, why can only men fight? Woman can be manipulated more easy with cuz of their culture. Why you guys think USA is killing every muslim in sight, you forget that they are fighting brainwashed suicide terrorists. And you forget that they are not in war with stupid people. They are are in war with smart people, yet sick.
And do not tell me I got problems with muslims. Yet I find it hard to understand their way of thinking, and their culture. Dude they are living in stone bricks, like we did 300 years ago. Christianity has been much more cruel, than muslims have. But again, they did it long ago. The muslims way of thinking, and their religion is outdated. Admit it. Yes, 500 years ago, I would prolly say that muslim > christ. But now Christianity has been "updated" as we got smarter, and have bigger knowledge.
Some people say that you learned from us, that when we were down there we took them as slaves. We said "steal cheese and you get your hand cut of". Now they got those kinda rules down there. Maybe we learned them those laws? We stopped using them, but muslims haven't, so tell me who is the bad guy? I think we are. Therefor it is our duty to tell them, it is wrong. Another good excuse huh?
I also hear whining about equallity up here in denmark, between woman and men. But wait; if you go to school as a girl down in there, you get shot. They attack schools like that. Fact.
The muslims down there are fighting for "freedom". Really? And while we turn the back, terror bands take the lead back? I am sure you remember Sadam Husain?
You should think about this:
Who do you believe? The super nation which keeps everything secret for you?
Or the people saying they know the truth? The people that say, USA is keeping everything secret because they are killing everyone down there? The people that shows you pictures of crying children?
You should choose wisely who to believe.
~Frathir
Yes of course people living in "stone bricks" as you say live there because they're weird people who want to blow themselves up in a crowded place. It has nothing to do with poverty or anything else, it's just their way of life.
frathir
12-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Yes of course people living in "stone bricks" as you say live there because they're weird people who want to blow themselves up in a crowded place. It has nothing to do with poverty or anything else, it's just their way of life.
Are you being sarcastic?
frathir
12-23-2010, 06:05 PM
Yes
Then yes, it's there culture to live in stonebricks :P my house is build of those too ;D They are outnumbered, they can't fight normal war, they are blowing some stuff up too make frustration, to get attention.
To blame their "poverty" for this kinda warfare. Meh.
They fight for "freedom". They are not the only ones to do that with terror.
It is pretty offending, the way you are being sarcastic ;) quit that if you want a real debate.
~Frathir
Then yes, it's there culture to live in stonebricks :P my house is build of those too ;D They are outnumbered, they can't fight normal war, they are blowing some stuff up too make frustration, to get attention.
To blame their "poverty" for this kinda warfare. Meh.
They fight for "freedom". They are not the only ones to do that with terror.
It is pretty offending, the way you are being sarcastic ;) quit that if you want a real debate.
~Frathir
Well, when you said this:
Dude they are living in stone bricks, like we did 300 years ago.
I got the feeling you implied that they were people who's just too dumb to build real houses, and my reply may not have been the brightest but I'm still not very sure what point you wanted to make when you wrote that.
AwkwardDev
12-23-2010, 07:27 PM
About my "bullsh*t" that a kid or a woman would make a c4. Dude, why can only men fight? Woman can be manipulated more easy with cuz of their culture. Why you guys think USA is killing every muslim in sight, you forget that they are fighting brainwashed suicide terrorists. And you forget that they are not in war with stupid people. They are are in war with smart people, yet sick.
And do not tell me I got problems with muslims. Yet I find it hard to understand their way of thinking, and their culture. Dude they are living in stone bricks, like we did 300 years ago. Christianity has been much more cruel, than muslims have. But again, they did it long ago. The muslims way of thinking, and their religion is outdated. Admit it. Yes, 500 years ago, I would prolly say that muslim > christ. But now Christianity has been "updated" as we got smarter, and have bigger knowledge.
Some people say that you learned from us, that when we were down there we took them as slaves. We said "steal cheese and you get your hand cut of". Now they got those kinda rules down there. Maybe we learned them those laws? We stopped using them, but muslims haven't, so tell me who is the bad guy? I think we are. Therefor it is our duty to tell them, it is wrong. Another good excuse huh?
I also hear whining about equallity up here in denmark, between woman and men. But wait; if you go to school as a girl down in there, you get shot. They attack schools like that. Fact.
The muslims down there are fighting for "freedom". Really? And while we turn the back, terror bands take the lead back? I am sure you remember Sadam Husain?
You should think about this:
Who do you believe? The super nation which keeps everything secret for you?
Or the people saying they know the truth? The people that say, USA is keeping everything secret because they are killing everyone down there? The people that shows you pictures of crying children?
You should choose wisely who to believe.
~Frathir
You have no idea what Arab is, and how they are living, why they are living in stone bricks and such. It's pointless to tell you anything further, you wholy mis-understand me.
I am not. However, the fact that others have committed atrocities, and that other countries are dirty is no excuse for being dirty yourself. That's all I am saying ^^
Especially not when you want to play worldpolice and act like you were some protector of freedom ( yada yada ).
But I never said or insinuated that.
The US isn't Interpol.
You have no idea what Arab is, and how they are living, why they are living in stone bricks and such. It's pointless to tell you anything further, you wholy mis-understand me.
I think you want to change up the truth with your opinions and made-up shit.
frathir
12-23-2010, 11:29 PM
guys no offence in it tbh...
I live in a house made of stonebricks!
but they are living like we did 500 years ago, thats what i am trying to say...
Never said they were supid.
Kibble
01-04-2011, 01:18 AM
I think the war is not needed but I also think this video is 100% bullshit. Our government is one of the most powerful in the world. They have to do secret things or else people like you would make a HUGE deal out of it. Most of the pedestrian casualties are accident or caused by suicide bombers. Our oil is paid for in full. I don't even know why they put oil as a topic. And Muslims attack us. Anyone heard of the Twin Towers? Afghan/Iraq War? Exactly.
jdfskitz
01-04-2011, 01:50 AM
I don't have sound, I will watch this later. I love reading about peoples opinions on society and debating them.
frathir
01-04-2011, 01:31 PM
I think the war is not needed but I also think this video is 100% bullshit. Our government is one of the most powerful in the world. They have to do secret things or else people like you would make a HUGE deal out of it. Most of the pedestrian casualties are accident or caused by suicide bombers. Our oil is paid for in full. I don't even know why they put oil as a topic. And Muslims attack us. Anyone heard of the Twin Towers? Afghan/Iraq War? Exactly.
Indeed sir! I agree, somewhat at least
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